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Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 9:44 am to
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UFMatt


Hey, bro. Stop posting from your basement in rural central Florida.

Just kidding. Spot on.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60677 posts
Posted on 9/3/24 at 10:04 am to
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I am about to say is hard.


The truth is easy, just hard for folks to tell it.



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UCF, lose this game and he should be fired in the locker room post-game.


:kige:



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we just keep on doing the same shite over and over and expecting a different result.


Welcome to Merica starting in 1980.



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I always try to support the team, there are probably only 10-15% of Gator fans like me


Old school Gators fans knew what it was like to lose and still support the team. Sadly, the 1980 turning point is where I first stated noticing the Boo Birds and other invasive species that have affected college sports fans across this great land.

So much prior was passed hand to hand and generation to generation as a ritual of passage in Merica and sadly this has been replace3d by greed, power, and too much wasted money.



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If heads start to roll, the first to hit the chopping block should be the man that hired the failure.


We are in agreement here. Keep going upstream till you solve the problem in long term sound decision making.

Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30752 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 7:17 am to
Napier is done, it’s over. I have been one of his biggest supporters, however, the game last Saturday was disgusting. We still have the same issues from years past, bad penalties, odd personnel rotations - starting guys at beginning of drives that aren’t the best players at their position, and our OL is still a major weak spot (because Napier has kept Sale and the dude can’t recruit top end talent).
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54306 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:50 am to
Good god I’m in full agreement with a UFMatt post.

Am I alive or is this a dream
Posted by TomSpanks
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
1243 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:24 am to
I think you'd have to have your head buried in the sand to not be in agreement with most of what every Gator is thinking right now.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
60677 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:26 am to
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I am alive, this a nightmare



FIFY
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7689 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:28 am to
frick Billy Napier
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54306 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:00 pm to
I seriously liked the guy as a person until I heard that post game presser and the Monday presser.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12787 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:03 am to
Here is my take and opinion on what needs to happen. We have 3 games before an open date before the UCF game. If after those games, we still don't believe that Napier is the answer, he should be fired.
Samford - should be a 50+ point victory
Texas A & M - should be a close well-played game, win or lose.
Miss State - should be a win.
If those aren't the results, IMO a change needs to be made.
Next step, after firing Napier UF needs to beg Spurrier to serve as interim
for the rest of the season. Just having him in that role will change everything.
Although he couldn't completely change the offense, he could call the right plays at the right time and tweak it a lot. He would get the most out of the players, coaches and fans for the rest of the season just with him being the HBC. Then at the endo of the season UF could hire a big-time coach to lead this program going forward. A committee needs to make this hire, not Stricklin alone. No more coordinators from other schools or coaches from none power 4 conferences. This has to be a big-time hire, Kiffin level type hire, although I don't believe it will be Kiffin. I like Jedd Fisch as one potential front runner. But having said that, I also believe the Kerwin Bell would be a great candidate. We need a Gator to be the HBC! Someone who knows that there are no basements in central Florida and bleeds orange and blue.
No matter what happens, I will be cheering on the team on Saturday. Nothing will change that fact. Go Gators!
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39580 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:07 am to
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I like Jedd Fisch as one potential front runner.



there is no reason to believe Jedd Fisch should be the #1.

his name is only as relevant as last season.

Kiffin has be around a lot longer.

if Meyer wants to coach again (at any school), give him a blank check. make him say "no".

then go after Kiffin.

if he says "no", we're screwed again no matter who we hire.
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12787 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:26 am to
Kiffin will not take the job if offered. Ole Miss is the perfect fit for him.
Might as well go after Bob Stoops again for the 4th time.

Meyer has way too much baggage; they are still making movies and series about his UF teams and players.

If you want to throw anyone a blank check, why not Saban?

Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2764 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:55 am to
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Kiffin will not take the job if offered. Ole Miss is the perfect fit for him.



It's definitely going to be a lot harder than people think. His mother and brother live here. His father passed away in Oxford over the summer after being a fixture around the practice building and was honored at the game Saturday by the team. The community really poured out for him too while that was going on over the summer.

I posted somewhere around here that his son is moving to play at Oxford High next fall.

The guy is quite dug in around here and credits Ole Miss and Oxford with helping him quit drinking, getting his head together, and getting back into a shape other than a potato.

He hasn't had a Tuscaloosa tornado experience like Saban had that pretty much locked him into the community, but he's been on some kind of road to Damascus since getting here.

People on Florida football boards are such chauvinists for the State of Florida that I don't think they really think this stuff through. It's all just, "Florida is fricking awesome man! Anyone we want would come here!"

I've lived a lot of places. Florida is one of them. I've never been a multimillionaire anywhere, so I'm pretty sure everywhere I've lived is a lot different when you have that kind of money.

Ole Miss also has, at this time, a far, far better NIL operation than UF has. That's just objective fact. Too many of our fans think of those national championships and that era of football and go no further in considering where Florida is at the moment vs. other traditionally less important programs. There is also a lack of understanding just how much talent there is in Mississippi and how much easier it is for an athlete to get eligible at Ole Miss versus UF. Mississippi is ahead of Florida in number of NFL players per capita. Admittedly, that is a very simplistic way to look at those numbers, but if you can keep the in-state talent, expand to more regional recruiting into LA, TN, AR, and AL, and work the portal well, you can field a good team in Oxford. It's hard but doable with the right coach.

Is Florida overall more ripe for recruiting? Yes, this is a case where raw number matter more than weighing. Could Florida have a better NIL program? Probably. The raw materials are there, but at the moment it does not. The University has likewise so far not shown that it really knows how to put all of the pieces together.

I've also noticed fans are quick to spend other people's money. I'm sure Lane has a price. We all do. It's the old Winston Churchill joke about the lady, the punchline being, "We know what you are. Now we're just haggling over the price."

There is a figure that would get Lane to come to UF. I think my real difference of opinion, living in Oxford, working at Ole Miss, and being more familiar with the situation here, is that I think it is likely higher than a lot of the face painters think it is.

Florida has money, but they don't have Texas A&M money, nor are our boosters the same level of blowhards that Aggie boosters are. I'd guess the low side of getting Kiffin is, all told when considering all the buyouts for coaching staff, Kiffin, and paying for the staff Kiffin will want in Gainesville, $50 million, and could end up closer to $60 or $70.

I guess all of this is to say that there is a path to hiring Kiffin, but iI don't believe it's the layup a lot of folks think it is. He's got good reasons to stay, and buying out Napier and staff means the boosters at UF would have to step up in a way financially that they never really have. I think A&M is the only school that has gone this far to dump a coach. Our folks probably could, but I think it's reasonable to ask if they would.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
39580 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 11:43 am to
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I'd guess the low side of getting Kiffin is, all told when considering all the buyouts for coaching staff, Kiffin, and paying for the staff Kiffin will want in Gainesville, $50 million, and could end up closer to $60 or $70.




dude, we're about to spend $400 million on stadium renovations. some of which are asinine like reducing the overall seating capacity.

put that shite on hold.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2356 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 2:01 pm to
My guess is Kiffin is going to want a jimbo / Kelly type contract 10 years 120 mil guaranteed!!!!!

Not sure if UF will be willing to do that type of deal!!! Not with Stricklin as AD anyway
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 4:45 pm
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
7097 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 3:24 pm to
Stricklin is a proven failure at picking football coaches. He should go first.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
4607 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:07 pm to
I think Kiffin would need another GA beatdown to even consider coming here now. If he is competitive with them or in the playoff he likely stays imo.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7689 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:11 pm to
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Stricklin is a proven failure at picking football coaches. He should go first.
We need to get rid of all the Foley-era members of the UAA before making any AD/coaching changes.

If those guys continue to make decisions, we'll end up with the same type of AD and HC.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7689 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 4:57 pm to
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. I like Jedd Fisch as one potential front runner. But having said that, I also believe the Kerwin Bell would be a great candidate.
If neither of those guys went to nor played for UF, would you consider them given their resume and background?
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7689 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by UFMatt
Proud again to be an American
Member since Oct 2010
12787 posts
Posted on 9/5/24 at 9:23 pm to
Nope well maybe Kerwin
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