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re: Gators Only Poll - Re: Coach Mac Death Threats
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:15 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:15 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You list national rankings but forget to mention no improvement to offense. Which is where it’s needed most. I’m not worried about national rankings until we can get a functional offense that can run and pass consistently.
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:25 am to finchmeister08
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You list national rankings but forget to mention no improvement to offense. Which is where it’s needed most. I’m not worried about national rankings until we can get a functional offense that can run and pass consistently.
Man, if we had Chubb and Michel at Florida and we ran it 80% of the time with Davis in mop up we'd be fine, too. It's really easy to make it look better with those players, Finch.
Keep in mind, too, with the suspensions and the injuries it's not like our offense which was already completely ravaged by the Muschamp years -- literally only one position that produces better with his offensive players is at TE.
Outside of TE, there are no receivers who should be starting from Muschamp -- Toney is better than Powell, faster and more heartt.
At RB, there isn't a single Muschamp recruit. (There wasn't last year.)
At QB, there isn't a single Muschamp recruit. (There wasn't last year.)
On our OL, there isn't a single Muschamp recruit. (There wasn't last year against Alabama.)
The entire offense has been reconstructed a second time -- Richt recruited at least decently on both sides of the ball. Maybe not incredible (albeit, I consider 8th average over 5 years to be pretty incredible and more than sufficient) but when Richt left, he left a serviceable football team.
Ours was not. There were gaping holes on the roster -- and our recruiting was going into the abyss.
Kirby's not a fair comparison, though, the other ones moreso, but that one specifically is not.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:36 pm to finchmeister08
Matt Hayes reports if Mac lied UF can fire him with cause and save $12M
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:39 pm to TJGator1215
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Matt Hayes reports if Mac lied UF can fire him with cause and save $12M
I heard that, too.
The only thing McElwain has done worse than his offense is handle the controversies.
The shark thing was embarrassing -- I mean, you learn from a very young age ''sticks and stones...''
Now this. It's part and parcel of being an HC. People go wild online all the time, so just fricking man up and deal with them. He needs to take himself down off of that cross.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:44 pm to TDFreak
Idk, but he definitely exaggerated since he provided no proof or details. Maybe it was some jackass on twitter going off on the team. Regardless, he went about it in the worst way and made the UF fan base look bad.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:45 pm to gatorsimz
The fanbase does a fine job of making themselves look bad by themselves.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:31 pm to TJGator1215
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Matt Hayes reports if Mac lied UF can fire him with cause and save $12M
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:34 pm to finchmeister08
He didn't lie. There's tweets on twitter where people sent Mac death threats. TJ fell for the click bait again. 
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:40 pm to UFMatt
No it wont you just love these dumb arguments. See Zook. Fans fought him literally yet still got Meyer. UF will have no issue. Its a top job and any coach scared of failing here isn't worth the job anyways.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:48 pm to Gatorbait2008
A good coach can win at UF right away.
This isn't temple. There is talent here.
This isn't temple. There is talent here.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:56 pm to slayerxing
I know. Its my point. We can get top tier. The UAA is loaded, and team is young. This is a Job a coach can win immediately.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:01 pm to atlgator
no I didn't.
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Translation: The university — because it legally must protect its coaches, students and employees from harm — asked for evidence. McElwain declined.
I’m actually shocked Florida hasn’t already fired McElwain.
If you can’t trust the man you’re paying nearly $5 million a year to run your football program, it’s time to move on to someone else. Here’s the irony in this bizarre ordeal: Whether or not McElwain wants to leave, he might have just given Florida the ammunition to make it happen – and not pay a $12 million buyout.
If he doesn’t have additional details or evidence to his claims, or refuses to share what he has, he allows himself to be fired for cause by the university.
If McElwain truly did receive death threats, those threats should not only be forwarded to his boss at the university, but also to federal authorities. In this day of heightened awareness on intense public scrutiny of public figures, no threat can go ignored.
If McElwain did receive death threats, he is willfully ignoring them by not forwarding information to his superiors and law enforcement. That’s a big problem
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This is the latest wedge between McElwain and the Gators’ administration, one that began after the end of the 2016 regular season when McElwain was asked about criticism of his team. He said, “we were brought here to win the SEC East, and we’ve done it twice” — knowing full well the expectations from a program that has won three national championships isn’t winning a division title and getting blown out in the SEC Championship Game.
A few weeks later, after a victory over Iowa in the Outback Bowl, McElwain was asked in the post-game press conference about the state of the program moving forward, he said, “We’ll look for the commitment that we get from the administration moving forward, see where that’s at.”
That comment didn’t sit well with the Florida administration, which has done everything McElwain has asked, including millions in facilities upgrades (and more on the way) after McElwain publicly complained about the state of the facilities and embarrassed the university.
Scott Stricklin, one of the nation’s sharpest athletic directors, replaced the retiring Jeremy Foley in October of 2016 and was all of three months into his job before being called out by McElwain.
Since the end of last season, McElwain has had to deal with a fake social media story run amuck (the naked guy on a shark who looked like McElwain), and nine of his players charged with credit card fraud and indefinitely suspended. Those suspensions – which included the team’s two best offensive players (Antonio Callaway, Jordan Scarlett) — severely damaged this season and left Florida fans livid about the state of the program heading into this weekend’s game against bitter rival Georgia.
Throw all of that on top of the reality that McElwain’s offenses have been among the worst in the nation, and the program is in no better shape than it was when Florida fired Will Muschamp after the 2014 season.
In fact, it could be argued that it’s in worse shape: off the field incidents have significantly increased, and the Gators aren’t recruiting nearly at the level they were under Muschamp. Then there’s McElwan’s odd decision to choose a career walk-on (Luke Del Rio) over the best offensive player on his roster (Will Grier) after Grier was suspended for a year by the NCAA for taking a performance-enhancing drug.
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Hayes reports that Florida could now fire McElwain with cause — eliminating the need for his $12 million buyout — because 1) he could have lied about the alleged death threats and/or 2) he was insubordinate to his superiors when he did not present any evidence or details to them based on the claims he made.
“It’s a bad situation,” Hayes says one Florida staff member told him on Monday, between when McElwain made his initial comments and when Florida released its statement.
Hayes points to the trust that Gators officials have to have in the man they are paying $5 million annually, and by remaining coy over the threats he alleges to have come through to his team — by not reporting to police or his bosses — McElwain has potentially given grounds for Florida to fire him.
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:04 pm to atlgator
Why am I not shocked you blame the fans. A Mac soldier til the end. I'll bet you blame UF when he's fired.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:09 pm to slayerxing
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A good coach can win at UF right away.
This isn't temple. There is talent here.
''Hey McElwain, thanks for bringing us out of the jaws of death and working with a broken roster for three years, then blazing the recruiting trail and bringing in some primetime quality offensive talent -- now frick off. Now that we have the talent we can get us a real coach.''
Seriously, frick this fanbase, man.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:09 pm to reel_gator8
we do have a horrible fan base.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:24 pm to TJGator1215
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Why am I not shocked you blame the fans. A Mac soldier til the end. I'll bet you blame UF when he's fired.
What? Death threats from fans isn't on the fans? Seriously?
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:27 pm to atlgator
Mac has provided zero proof. He said the players were threatened and yet the police weren't notified. He's got a duty to report it but didn't. He's lying.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:28 pm to SailorGator
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we do have a horrible fan base.
This is becoming a worse problem every year, every week, every day, every hour, every minute on this board.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:32 pm to TJGator1215
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He's lying
That's exactly what someone who sent the coaches death threats would say.
Posted on 10/24/17 at 3:39 pm to atlgator
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That's exactly what someone who sent the coaches death threats would say.
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