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Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Mental midget who actually cares what regular people think about him.
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I was right, my mission was complete
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Vindicated
You were saying?
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:35 pm to slayerxing
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Admonishing straws for his war on franks deserves its own thread
Nah, I wouldn't wanna break his stride. It's best to let these things just flow naturally when someone is exposing themselves for being everything that is toxic about our fanbase.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:53 pm to slayerxing
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Admonishing straws for his war on franks deserves its own thread
I mean, I was right.
I saw something that I thought posed enough of a threat to Florida's chances of being successful and posted it over and over again -- often times by being goaded into the conversation.
Sorry Franks wasn't that great of a Quarterback and got dunked on by Trask.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 7:54 pm to dbuchanon
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Nah, I wouldn't wanna break his stride. It's best to let these things just flow naturally when someone is exposing themselves for being everything that is toxic about our fanbase.
Like benching Trask for Emory Jones.
To be so fricking blind lmfao.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:32 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Look in the mirror.
Us talking amongst ourselves in here about a player is nowhere near the shite you pulled going after a player directly to the point you had to be blocked.
Ive never tweeted about Trask or Emory. And Ive never been blocked by a Gator or any other kid playing a game
Im a grown man. I dont need any validation on here or any form of social media. Its not that serious
But hey, you keep doing you. We’ll just watch n laugh as we feel sorry for you. Trust me. I do
Us talking amongst ourselves in here about a player is nowhere near the shite you pulled going after a player directly to the point you had to be blocked.
Ive never tweeted about Trask or Emory. And Ive never been blocked by a Gator or any other kid playing a game
Im a grown man. I dont need any validation on here or any form of social media. Its not that serious
But hey, you keep doing you. We’ll just watch n laugh as we feel sorry for you. Trust me. I do
Posted on 2/12/20 at 8:40 pm to dbuchanon
I mean, Gator football players shouldn't be stalking around Twitter to begin with. I didn't go after him, I was debating with someone else and they put the @ on.
Dude's the starting Quarterback on Florida, he shouldn't be getting into Twitter beefs with random fans.
Instead of crying and blocking me on Twitter he should have been in the film room getting better. I'm not trying to be a dick but Quarterback in the SEC is one of the hardest jobs in the country and it's probably not for people who have to insulate themselves from criticism.
I'm not going to stop criticizing a player because they're too fricking soft to take it. I never went after him, never posted at him, never even attempted to -- a lot of conversations where I saw him tagged I deliberately avoided specifically because I knew he stalked around on Twitter trying to find out who liked him and who didn't.
Dude's a headcase, don't blame me for his fragile ego.
Dude's the starting Quarterback on Florida, he shouldn't be getting into Twitter beefs with random fans.
Instead of crying and blocking me on Twitter he should have been in the film room getting better. I'm not trying to be a dick but Quarterback in the SEC is one of the hardest jobs in the country and it's probably not for people who have to insulate themselves from criticism.
I'm not going to stop criticizing a player because they're too fricking soft to take it. I never went after him, never posted at him, never even attempted to -- a lot of conversations where I saw him tagged I deliberately avoided specifically because I knew he stalked around on Twitter trying to find out who liked him and who didn't.
Dude's a headcase, don't blame me for his fragile ego.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:43 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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What's the why? I checked out of Twitter a while ago.
Certain part of the fan base wants Emory to start for reasons pertaining to his color.
I’ll leave it at that because I don’t want this thread to turn into a shitshow (not that it already hasn’t).
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:33 pm to boXerrumble
I kinda knew it was going to happen, too, even when a lot of people beforehand said: "Trask will never be my Quarterback."
I didn't want to say it because I know that it's simply an unpopular opinion but it absolutely exists (and is amplified on Twitter). Kind of a shame, I mean, be Trask.
Be a backup at your HS.
Go to Florida, compete, lose the job.
One HC fired next HC in, compete, lose the job.
Have the option to transfer, nah, Gators are my family.
Watch guy struggle from the sidelines.
Gators are my family.
Stick around. Go into next season.
No complaints, no bitching, no whining about playing time.
Finally get your shot.
Out throw the guy who "beat" you out first game.
Out throw that same guy 5 times out of the ten times you start.
Do this without any help from the running game.
Every week. No bullshite, just work ethic.
Every week get better. Pocket awareness, protecting the ball etc. etc..
Break records despite everything going against you.
Lackluster OL play.
Being swapped out every other drive.
Still no complaints, share with Emory -- no problem.
No threats to transfer, Gators are my family.
Outperform Jake Fromm, dude who went early to the NFL.
Are you guys tired of hearing that the Gators are my Family?
Have a "bad" Bowl Game, ~350 total yards.
Finish the season, outperforming a championship QB in Chris Leak.
We need to play Emory, he fits the system better.
Nevermind the personnel, nevermind the work ethic, the commitment, experience and loyalty.
Emory can run. :3
It's so insane when you think about how ungrateful a lot of people can be.
I didn't want to say it because I know that it's simply an unpopular opinion but it absolutely exists (and is amplified on Twitter). Kind of a shame, I mean, be Trask.
Be a backup at your HS.
Go to Florida, compete, lose the job.
One HC fired next HC in, compete, lose the job.
Have the option to transfer, nah, Gators are my family.
Watch guy struggle from the sidelines.
Gators are my family.
Stick around. Go into next season.
No complaints, no bitching, no whining about playing time.
Finally get your shot.
Out throw the guy who "beat" you out first game.
Out throw that same guy 5 times out of the ten times you start.
Do this without any help from the running game.
Every week. No bullshite, just work ethic.
Every week get better. Pocket awareness, protecting the ball etc. etc..
Break records despite everything going against you.
Lackluster OL play.
Being swapped out every other drive.
Still no complaints, share with Emory -- no problem.
No threats to transfer, Gators are my family.
Outperform Jake Fromm, dude who went early to the NFL.
Are you guys tired of hearing that the Gators are my Family?
Have a "bad" Bowl Game, ~350 total yards.
Finish the season, outperforming a championship QB in Chris Leak.
We need to play Emory, he fits the system better.
Nevermind the personnel, nevermind the work ethic, the commitment, experience and loyalty.
Emory can run. :3
It's so insane when you think about how ungrateful a lot of people can be.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Finish the season, outperforming a championship QB in Chris Leak.
Cool story.
Except you forgot the part where UF played the toughest schedule in the Nation that year and Leak rode off into the sunset as the MVP of the National Championship Game.
Seriously. Until Trask hangs a banner on the wall, stop trying to mention him among the Gator Greats. I mean, its bad enough you keep putting his name with Rex, one of the best deep passers we've ever had who should've won a Heisman, now you're trying to put him above a Champion MVP.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:01 am to dbuchanon
How did you make it into adulthood with those reasoning skills?
Zook recruited a lot better than McElwain and Muschamp.
2006 Florida Gator offensive line was significantly better than 2019.
Tim Tebow offered a power running game -- something Emory nor 2019 Florida had.
Similarly:
Chris Leak had 220 yards vs. OSU and one touchdown.
A game you constantly bitch about is Trask and UVA: 343 total yards and two touchdowns.
Also, you stupidly assign credit and blame to players disproportionately.
In that OSU game, Tim Tebow had more touchdowns than Chris Leak. One rushing, one passing.
The teams weren't built similarly, and Trask had far more handicaps than Leak did despite outperforming Leak in:
Touchdown Passes. (2 more.)
Interceptions. (5 less.)
300 yard games. (5 - 1)
Better completion %. (+6.3)
More rushing Touchdowns. (+1)
And started four less games.
You also brought up schedule, so let's talk about it:
Auburn: 108 yards passing.
Georgia: 163.
Tennessee: 199.
Arkansas: 189.
Trask has never thrown under 200 in any game that he has started.
What you don't seem to get is that Leak was successful because of his team.
Our team was successful because of Trask.
Zook recruited a lot better than McElwain and Muschamp.
2006 Florida Gator offensive line was significantly better than 2019.
Tim Tebow offered a power running game -- something Emory nor 2019 Florida had.
Similarly:
Chris Leak had 220 yards vs. OSU and one touchdown.
A game you constantly bitch about is Trask and UVA: 343 total yards and two touchdowns.
Also, you stupidly assign credit and blame to players disproportionately.
In that OSU game, Tim Tebow had more touchdowns than Chris Leak. One rushing, one passing.
The teams weren't built similarly, and Trask had far more handicaps than Leak did despite outperforming Leak in:
Touchdown Passes. (2 more.)
Interceptions. (5 less.)
300 yard games. (5 - 1)
Better completion %. (+6.3)
More rushing Touchdowns. (+1)
And started four less games.
You also brought up schedule, so let's talk about it:
Auburn: 108 yards passing.
Georgia: 163.
Tennessee: 199.
Arkansas: 189.
Trask has never thrown under 200 in any game that he has started.
What you don't seem to get is that Leak was successful because of his team.
Our team was successful because of Trask.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:49 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Who gives a flying frick if the QB has 300 yards if his team loses to a hated rival and misses the shot at ATL and the playoffs? Get your team in position to put points on the board.
He got his team in position to score, a fkn 41-14 win in the NCG.
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Chris Leak had 220 yards vs. OSU and one touchdown
He got his team in position to score, a fkn 41-14 win in the NCG.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:58 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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In that OSU game, Tim Tebow had more touchdowns than Chris Leak. One rushing, one passing.
ROFLMAO!! A 1 yard pass and a 1 yard rushing td. Tebow accounted for 40 total yards in that game. Who moved the team into position to score? The man holding the MVP trophy.
You really need help. I cant believe youre trying to downplay UFs alltime leading passer to prop up Trask. Wow
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 3:01 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:49 am to dbuchanon
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You really need help. I cant believe youre trying to downplay UFs alltime leading passer to prop up Trask. Wow
And you're basically touting Emory who has barely done anything to prove hes better than Trask, other than his physical attributes
This thread has gotten so far off the rails its comical.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 12:20 pm to boXerrumble
His entire argument is "Emory can run good" and anything Trask does -- no matter how well he plays it's Trask's fault we're not in the playoff.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/13/20 at 2:20 pm to boXerrumble
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This thread has gotten so far off the rails its comical.
There is always so much love on this board.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 4:30 pm to boXerrumble
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And you're basically touting Emory who has barely done anything to prove hes better than Trask, other than his physical attributes
This thread has gotten so far off the rails its comical.
So much this.
Posted on 2/14/20 at 11:14 pm to slayerxing
Also straws you give stat after stat after stat and the numbers dont lie I get that.
But the offense was completely differently called when trask played compared to Franks. With Franks starting they were bound and determined to run the ball and not have basically an air raid offense if Frank's had ran this same air raid attack that they went to with trask we may be talking about a different scenario all together.
But that wasn't the case so will never know everything happens for a reason so will see going forward with what we have coming back depending on who improves maybe sometime during the season the E.J. maybe what we need going forward we will see still have 7 months too see how this shapes out
But the offense was completely differently called when trask played compared to Franks. With Franks starting they were bound and determined to run the ball and not have basically an air raid offense if Frank's had ran this same air raid attack that they went to with trask we may be talking about a different scenario all together.
But that wasn't the case so will never know everything happens for a reason so will see going forward with what we have coming back depending on who improves maybe sometime during the season the E.J. maybe what we need going forward we will see still have 7 months too see how this shapes out
Posted on 2/15/20 at 4:12 am to AlbinoGator
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But the offense was completely differently called when trask played compared to Franks.
Trask sees the field considerably better than Franks does, which is why it wasn't called the same. He can't run that offense. Franks would fumble routine handoffs and has worse pocket presence than Trask -- which is saying something.
He would routinely rotate out of clean pockets and right into pressure. It became such a problem in Kentucky that the announcers actually pointed out that they could easily flush him out (as done in the Miami game as well) and get him to make mistakes.
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But that wasn't the case so will never know
I mean, we do know:
Trask is a better passer. Specifically in the center of the field, which is what I've been saying for years. Literally you can go back and find the Spring Game breakdown where I gave a precise reason why Trask was better than Franks as a passer -- downfield threat. 80% of passes from Trask are downfield, only 25 - 30% of Franks' were. They were either at the line, behind the line or just beyond the line of scrimmage with the occasional out and hitch.
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E.J.
I have to ask you guys: Do you really think losing Trask (100%) to transfer is worth seeing if EJ works out?
What happens if EJ gets injured, or shite, just tweaks something for one game?
Do you really think that we should risk Anthony Richardson having to go into a pass-first offense because there will literally be walk-on Quarterbacks behind him?
2020 is perfect with Trask at the helm:
He's started 10 games and been banged up once -- on a play where any Quarterback would be banged up. Let's say he only gets halfway through the year, this mitigates our losses significantly.
We know even if the offense is an absolute shitshow, if he has a bad day -- we know that he will still make the offense work.
I'm just not sure I understand how there is any justification given the number of Quarterbacks we have and Trask's impressive resume to run him off because of a less-than-stellar resume from Emory Jones.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 12:49 pm to AlbinoGator
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But the offense was completely differently called when trask played compared to Franks.
I think Mullen was gonna go air raid regardless who the qb was because of how bad the oline was at run blocking. And IF Franks wouldn’t of got injured he would of thrown about 10-15 interceptions and we would of went about 8-4. I mean EJ didn’t even look good running behind that line. We are fortunate to have lucked up into Trask and I am ready to see what he can do with an improved oline and and starting experience under his belt now.
I also don’t understand how EJ has all this hype.
Posted on 2/15/20 at 1:20 pm to olemc999
Franks also got to play Kentucky and Miami, and before people start talking about their pass defenses -- they weren't that great, either of them. Trask was on pace for a 400+ yard game of passing if he hadn't played one quarter and Miami played a single ranked team their entire season (us).
People also talk about Trask's fumbles, mostly against Tennessee and Auburn but forget that Franks was still fumbling routine hand offs.
He was a turnover machine.
They saw him with a few good runs, a few non-touch passes downfield and think that this is a video game where you can just switch off injuries.
People also talk about Trask's fumbles, mostly against Tennessee and Auburn but forget that Franks was still fumbling routine hand offs.
He was a turnover machine.
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EJ Hype
They saw him with a few good runs, a few non-touch passes downfield and think that this is a video game where you can just switch off injuries.
This post was edited on 2/15/20 at 1:22 pm
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