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Gatorbait2008
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Emory or Trask
Let's have the discussion.

Both have pros and cons. I'm split right now, but leaning towards Emory because he has more upside. Look at Hurts and Tua. Look at Lawrence coming in and removing a proven QB at Clemson.

Trask proved he is competent and with the right play calls he can excel. The key with Jones to me would be Mullen can have more freedom to call the game how he likes traditionally.

I'd take either. Love both guys. But if Jones proves he is ready to go this off season, I think it may be time to let him shine. He just fits what Mullen likes in a QB more and let's us open up the offense more. Good video on Trask pros and cons.

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dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
If Mike Leach were our HC, Id want Kyle.
We have Mullen, So I want Emory.

He's the better fit for Mullen's style of offense.


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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Emory or Trask
Trask.

Primary Reason: Scholarship Numbers.

Emory wins the job Trask leaves to play somewhere else.

That gives us 2 scholarship Quarterbacks:

Emory Jones who has never started a game and Anthony Richardson who has his first year on campus and is a true Freshman.

Second Reason:

Our offensive line has not proven it can run block and we saw what happened to Franks, it can very easily happen to another running Quarterback because the line is not physical enough to actually block for a dual-threat.

Third Reason:

Trask is the top returning Quarterback in the SEC in QBR, Total QBR and almost every other metric outside of PFF.

You can't bench a proven commodity to start someone who has no real experience and Mullen won't.

If we had what we will have in 2021, I would say sure, let's fly.

Emory Jones, Anthony Richardson and Carlos Del Rio.

But we don't have that.


dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
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Our offensive line has not proven it can run block and we saw what happened to Franks

It was just A freak play that got Franks injured. I don't think anything he did or his style of play made a difference.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Emory or Trask
A running Quarterback by definition is more prone to injury than a Pro-style Quarterback.

Emory was shaken up against UVA which is why he had to sit out for a while, and to last an entire year in the SEC without being shaken up just isn't going to happen, even Trask almost got injured but thankfully he's such a prolific passer that it doesn't matter if he's gimpy.

If Emory goes gimpy it's all over.


dbuchanon
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A running Quarterback by definition is more prone to injury than a Pro-style Quarterback.

Uh, ok. Sure.

quote:

Trask almost got injured but thankfully he's such a prolific passer that it doesn't matter if he's gimpy.

I swear youre trolling with some of this bs

If ANY QB gets hurt its going to throw him off his game, passer or runner. You use your body mechanics to pass the ball, a hitch in that motion due to injury affects your ability to pass effectively.


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Gatorbait2008
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re: Emory or Trask
I mean not playing Jones because he runs more is not a thought Mullen likely has though. He loves running his QBs as often as possible. We have depth at QB now so injury risk shouldn't be the primary reason to me to choose a starter.

I like having these issues mind you. But the key is we have to be the best possible team this year, because the schedule is so set up for us to succeed. We make a wrong move, it can ruin the best chance at a playoff birth we have had. Everything just looks perfect for us, so I want the best version of UF out there every game.


StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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We have depth at QB now so injury risk shouldn't be the primary reason to me to choose a starter.


In what world do you guys live in?

How do we have depth at Quarterback? If Emory Jones is named starter, Trask transfers. 100%. Not even a debate.

Depth at Quarterback good god. We have one QB who has actually started a game. You guys get fricking weird with this shite.


dbuchanon
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We have one QB who has actually started a game

Was the exact case last year, didn't stop you from screaming for Trask each week before Franks went down. Honestly I just like watching you chase your tail now that the shoe is on your foot


slayerxing
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re: Emory or Trask
We just had the best qb play we’ve seen in forever and you want to bench the guy for an unproven back up just because he can run?

Lol no. It’s not even worth debating. You play the guy that started 10 games because he has experience and understands the offense.

If he had been bad last year then yeah it’s worth talking about. But he wasn’t bad. At any point and got better as the year went along.


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slayerxing
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re: Emory or Trask
Trask actually played well and won games with no run support. Franks had a run game supporting him and still was mediocre most of the year.

Worlds of difference between those two based on performance on the field.


dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
Newsflash: Franks is gone.

The thread is which QB would you want to start and why? I said Emory because he fits what Mullen wants to do offensively. This is pretty undisputed.
This post was edited on 2/9 at 1:01 pm


olemc999
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re: Emory or Trask
Trask


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slayerxing
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re: Emory or Trask
In that case trask. Easy.


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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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re: Emory or Trask
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Was the exact case last year, didn't stop you from screaming for Trask each week before Franks went down. Honestly I just like watching you chase your tail now that the shoe is on your foot


Trask actually showed he was better in several games, Emory hasn't shown he's better than Trask.

You guys remember his decent runs, you don't remember him getting banged up in the UVA game.

You don't remember the tons of times he ran into stacked boxes and stalled the drives, only to have Trask come in and bail him out.

Emory is no where near ready to be QB1 with no viable backup. Trask and Franks were in the same year, Anthony Richardson is a true blue Freshman with zero experience at the college level.

It's no where near the same.

You guys are crazy if you think it should be anyone but Trask, and this is coming from the guy who correctly predicted Trask would outperform Franks years ago -- and the guy who correctly predicted that Fromm was a bust years ago when he was getting NFL drafting reports of being a first rounder.

I know Quarterbacks, it's weird but I pay a lot of attention and I know the numbers we have.

Bad OL for run block, above average for pass block.

Elite passer (top 10 in Total QBR).

It's such an unbelievably simple formula -- and if Trask gets a run game to support him we are literally a Championship Level team.


slayerxing
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re: Emory or Trask
I hate that there is a decent chunk of the fanbase wanting to debate this.

It reminds me of leak and Tebow a bit in 2006.

You don’t bench your senior qb just because he can’t run unless the guy behind him is simply a ton better and Jones hasn’t proven that. Not even close.


dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
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You guys remember his decent runs, you don't remember him getting banged up in the UVA game.

Trask got hurt vs Auburn, why do you keep pushing this? Plus, I wouldn't push the UVA game as a unit of measure. Biggest spread of the Bowl season and we almost lost the fkr. Easily Trask's worst game of the season imo not counting that first half vs SC.



dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
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It reminds me of leak and Tebow a bit in 2006.

Glad you brought this up
Look at the points per game with Leak (the passer)as the starter then the next season with the dual threat. Again, this offense is at its best with a QB who can run.


olemc999
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re: Emory or Trask
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we almost lost the fkr.


That game was never in danger of being lost.


dbuchanon
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re: Emory or Trask
Yeah, sure.
When you win on an onside kick recovery with 2 min left, you didnt exactly coast to a win


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