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Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:33 pm to ForeverGator
Posted on 2/29/20 at 8:33 pm to ForeverGator
I like the players. It’s the coach that’s the problem.
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Posted on 3/1/20 at 9:46 am to slayerxing
He just can't motivate them. They play when they feel like it. They are 20 years old and you have to light a fire under them sometimes.
We are kind of in the same spot we were in last year and a loss to Georgia put us on the bubble. I hope it is not a repeat of that.
We are kind of in the same spot we were in last year and a loss to Georgia put us on the bubble. I hope it is not a repeat of that.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:29 am to ForeverGator
Four seed or better is your exact wording.
You were then mocked by everyone in the thread and you stood by it claiming we just didn't know basketball.
This team has talent, but the coach has no clue how to use it and motivate it.
You were then mocked by everyone in the thread and you stood by it claiming we just didn't know basketball.
This team has talent, but the coach has no clue how to use it and motivate it.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:44 am to ForeverGator
Saying that we were likely to get a 4 seed was still a pretty dumb thing to say back then
I'm trying not to carry the preseason expectations with this team anymore. I do believe that this team is underachieving considering its talent level, but at the same point we were obviously overrated as frick coming into the year, and I don't think it's fair to hold it against this team that they're not living up to unwarranted outside expectations
Hopefully we can finish strong, slide up to a 7 seed, and win a game or two to get some positive momentum going forward next season. Next year's team could be very good depending on who returns. But next year is the make-or-break year for White imo. The bloom is off the rose.
I'm trying not to carry the preseason expectations with this team anymore. I do believe that this team is underachieving considering its talent level, but at the same point we were obviously overrated as frick coming into the year, and I don't think it's fair to hold it against this team that they're not living up to unwarranted outside expectations
Hopefully we can finish strong, slide up to a 7 seed, and win a game or two to get some positive momentum going forward next season. Next year's team could be very good depending on who returns. But next year is the make-or-break year for White imo. The bloom is off the rose.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 10:49 am to GatorsGators
Next year's roster
PG: Nembhard (50/50 to return), Appleby, Glover
SG: Locke, Mann, Lane
SF: Lewis (50/50 to return), Duruji, Ruzhentsev
PF: Johnson (75/25 to return), Osifo
C: Payne, Jitoboh, Bassett
That's fourteen so obviously one has to leave. If no one leaves early then you'd think Bassett will be processed
PG: Nembhard (50/50 to return), Appleby, Glover
SG: Locke, Mann, Lane
SF: Lewis (50/50 to return), Duruji, Ruzhentsev
PF: Johnson (75/25 to return), Osifo
C: Payne, Jitoboh, Bassett
That's fourteen so obviously one has to leave. If no one leaves early then you'd think Bassett will be processed
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:31 am to GatorsGators
It's sad you've already moved on to next season?
Do I think we get a 4 seed now? No, but it was certainly doable when I said it.
Best case scenario is winning out and winning the sec tourney and making a 5-6 seed. If this team can get motivated at the end, you just never know. But I think it's shitty to just give up on them when the talent is there and they certainly could find their stride at the right time.
Do I think we get a 4 seed now? No, but it was certainly doable when I said it.
Best case scenario is winning out and winning the sec tourney and making a 5-6 seed. If this team can get motivated at the end, you just never know. But I think it's shitty to just give up on them when the talent is there and they certainly could find their stride at the right time.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:39 am to GatorsGators
You act as if the grass is greener on the other side and make a ton of assumptions. I fear you guys are going to run off Mike White and then we're going to be awful for years to come.
We are more than likely going to wind up in a situation like Vandy then to improve in a coaching hire.
It is what it is.
We are more than likely going to wind up in a situation like Vandy then to improve in a coaching hire.
It is what it is.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:47 am to ForeverGator
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Best case scenario is winning out and winning the sec tourney and making a 5-6 seed.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 11:51 am to ForeverGator
quote:Do you mean Vanderbilt after firing Stallings or Vanderbilt after firing Drew?
You act as if the grass is greener on the other side and make a ton of assumptions. I fear you guys are going to run off Mike White and then we're going to be awful for years to come.
We are more than likely going to wind up in a situation like Vandy then to improve in a coaching hire.
It is what it is.
But, no, in the theoretical world where we did part ways with White after the 2021-2022 season, no, we would not be in a Vanderbilt scenario because if there's one thing that Mike White does very well, it's manage a roster. The cupboard would theoretically be well-stocked for the next coach, whether that guy be Beilein or Grant or someone else. But this program isn't limited to mid-range seeds and low chances of tournament runs imo and it's defeatist to act like the theoretical next coach would be a disaster if this program decides White isn't the guy to take it to the next level.
And I haven't given up on this team -- it's just hard to expect a deep run when you're likely going to end up in the 8/9 slot. Is this team capable of beating a Baylor, Kansas, or Gonzaga right now? Idk. If that's "shitty," so be it.
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/1/20 at 1:52 pm to GatorsGators
White may improve. Let him keep grinding a while. His recruiting is good.
But he’s sucked arse this year so far imo.
But he’s sucked arse this year so far imo.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:27 pm to ForeverGator
If we fire White it's likely to hire Grant.
Would you oppose this if the case? You can't take on a mindset like that. Being fearful you will make a bad hire is not something an AD at UF should have. UF has all the tools to sell itself to good coaches. Scott should assume he can land the coaches he wants because UF IS a top tier program(not blue blood but the next level for sure, and believe in his ability to hire).
Would you oppose this if the case? You can't take on a mindset like that. Being fearful you will make a bad hire is not something an AD at UF should have. UF has all the tools to sell itself to good coaches. Scott should assume he can land the coaches he wants because UF IS a top tier program(not blue blood but the next level for sure, and believe in his ability to hire).
This post was edited on 3/1/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:39 pm to Gatorbait2008
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If we fire White it's likely to hire Grant.
Who said? This is a huge assumption.
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Would you oppose this if the case?
I would not oppose it if we are a 1st round exit this year. No guarantee Grant does any better. He's a great mid-major coach, but his time at Bama told us he's not ready for the bigger conferences, but maybe we take the gamble.
I agree that UF will get a good coach, but a great one is tough. It's tough to have another Billy, unless you let a coach perhaps learn on the job a bit (like Billy did). There aren't a ton of coaches out there that scream Florida coach either. A lot of the blue bloods are aging and the up-and-coming coaches (like we have) are risky to take. Just plugging and playing the same formula of hiring an up-and-comer could be even worse.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 2:52 pm to GatorsGators
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Do you mean Vanderbilt after firing Stallings or Vanderbilt after firing Drew?
Ok, maybe Vanderbilt was an extreme example.
How about Indiana? They keep seem to find the right combination for a coach. Many consider them a blue blood, yet can't get back to that status anytime recently. They regularly miss the NCAA Tourney and fall short of expectations, coach after coach.
Posted on 3/1/20 at 4:05 pm to ForeverGator
I think Grant was simply a bad cultural fit at Bama and would do extremely well at Florida.
He'd be a tougher higher than people think, though, considering Dayton is his alma mater.
He'd be a tougher higher than people think, though, considering Dayton is his alma mater.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:33 am to GatorsGators
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PG: Nembhard (50/50 to return), Appleby, Glover
SG: Locke, Mann, Lane
SF: Lewis (50/50 to return), Duruji, Ruzhentsev
PF: Johnson (75/25 to return), Osifo
C: Payne, Jitoboh, Bassett
I see one of Nembhard, Lewis, or Johnson leaving.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:35 am to GatorsGators
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Hopefully we can finish strong, slide up to a 7 seed, and win a game or two to get some positive momentum going forward next season. Next year's team could be very good depending on who returns. But next year is the make-or-break year for White imo. The bloom is off the rose.
If they can get a 7 seed and avoid the 8/9, I think they can make it to the 2nd weekend. Then who knows.
But I don't see this team beating a #1 seeded KU/Baylor/Gonzaga given consistency/inconsistency.
Having said that... Ending up in San Diego States projected bracket would be UF's best shot at making a deep run.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 11:28 am to boXerrumble
I think Dayton will end up getting the fourth #1 seed, not SDSU, and I think Dayton would freaking destroy us
We might have a shot against SDSU or some potential #2 seeds like Maryland, FSU, and Creighton, though
We might have a shot against SDSU or some potential #2 seeds like Maryland, FSU, and Creighton, though
Posted on 3/2/20 at 12:01 pm to boXerrumble
quote:Probably. White definitely recruited assuming both Nembhard and Lewis were gone after this year.
I see one of Nembhard, Lewis, or Johnson leaving.
Posted on 3/3/20 at 8:35 pm to GatorsGators
Will never understand how in the frick this team struggled so bad against tenner.
If you play tough defense against this Florida team they wilt and just start jacking 3's with the way they play so up and down they could win the next 2 games or get slaughtered in the next 2
If you play tough defense against this Florida team they wilt and just start jacking 3's with the way they play so up and down they could win the next 2 games or get slaughtered in the next 2
Posted on 3/4/20 at 1:02 pm to AlbinoGator
OK we got the mangy mutts tonight, so let's all focus on the task at hand of keeping the dawgs down.
We need to win this or we may be right back on the bubble with UK coming into town for the Senior night finale on Saturday.
We need to win this or we may be right back on the bubble with UK coming into town for the Senior night finale on Saturday.
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