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The Muschamp Maryland drama
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:39 pm
What say y'all? Blown out of proportion or is being called an a-hole and sack of shite by deadspin along with a plethora of other media references to his supposed lack of character deserved?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:42 pm to Carolina_Girl
It served no benefit to himself or the program to speak out about it.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:54 pm to atlgamecockman
It's well known how loyal he is. No doubt the reporter was well aware of that fact as well as Muschamp being good friends with Durkin. I kinda feel like the reporter, knowing that info, intentionally posed the question, also aware that Muschamp was not expecting it. I'm certain he was also aware of Muschamp's tendency to not mince words and his tendency to answer questions with sometimes fiery passion. One of his best qualities is his absolute loyalty to those close to him. But even the best of personality traits can lead to issues sometimes and not necessarily intentionally, which is what I feel like happened here.
I'd also love to know where his publicity advisor was as he is usually standing right over his shoulder or very, very nearby. A media "get back" coach certainly would've been useful in this situation.
I do believe the media has latched onto Muschamp's comments instead of focusing on the real issue at hand which is the death of the young man.
President Pastides has made his statement and firmly stands by Coach Muschamp so as far as repercussions from the University I don't see any forthcoming. From other schools that recruit against us, however, I see this as a huge opportunity for them to try and utilize it in the form of negative recruiting.
I'd also love to know where his publicity advisor was as he is usually standing right over his shoulder or very, very nearby. A media "get back" coach certainly would've been useful in this situation.
I do believe the media has latched onto Muschamp's comments instead of focusing on the real issue at hand which is the death of the young man.
President Pastides has made his statement and firmly stands by Coach Muschamp so as far as repercussions from the University I don't see any forthcoming. From other schools that recruit against us, however, I see this as a huge opportunity for them to try and utilize it in the form of negative recruiting.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:00 pm to Carolina_Girl
If you've got Deadspin as an enemy, you're doing it right. Those folks are insane.
I had no issue with what Muschamp said. He knows Durkin better than anyone asking for answering the question. He's uniquely positioned to defend Durkin's character, which is exactly what he did.
I had no issue with what Muschamp said. He knows Durkin better than anyone asking for answering the question. He's uniquely positioned to defend Durkin's character, which is exactly what he did.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:05 pm to RoyalAir
I agree. He answered the question posed to him using the info provided to him from Durkin's own mouth that very morning. Who doesn't believe their friends until given absolutely irrefutable reason not to? That's exactly what Muschamp was doing and imo it's what 99.9% of the population, including those attacking him, would do whether they want to admit it or not.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:11 pm to Carolina_Girl
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I do believe the media has latched onto Muschamp's comments instead of focusing on the real issue at hand which is the death of the young man.
Not true at all. Although I don’t agree with what Muschamp said (as for me loyalty is all a sack of shite in my industry and everyone’s just looking out for themsvkes) the Durkin story and death of this kid has been far bigger, certainly in the larger markets and outside SC.
That’s all that’s being talked about really, along with Meyer
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:28 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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s for me loyalty is all a sack of shite in my industry and everyone’s just looking out for themsvkes)
Bruh, I’m in politics.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:29 pm to I Bleed Garnet
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:33 pm to theGarnetWay
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Bruh, I’m in politics.
Exactly
Do what’s best for you, frick everyone else.
But also keep your enemies close so you can blackmail em down the road
Posted on 8/14/18 at 8:37 pm to I Bleed Garnet
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But also keep your enemies close so you can blackmail em down the road
If I could do this as a nurse I'd be pretty damn rich.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:23 pm to Carolina_Girl
I wish he would’ve refrained from commenting on it. Probably would’ve been best for him to just say he has been fond of Durkin as a person, but he would reserve comment on the coaching scandal until all the facts were out ... or something like that.
I think it’s valid to express skepticism towards certain stories furnished by anonymous sources, but you have to know that in today’s world, journalists take that as a personal attack. Many of them make names for themselves based off anonymous sources. And we all know there probably isn’t a more thin-skinned profession than sports journalists. Having said that, a kid died. Muschamp should’ve known that anything but a full condemnation of Durkin could be viewed as a defense of his actions.
The worse the Maryland story gets, the more it will be used against Muschamp on the recruiting trail. Hopefully everything that has come out is all there is to know.
I think it’s valid to express skepticism towards certain stories furnished by anonymous sources, but you have to know that in today’s world, journalists take that as a personal attack. Many of them make names for themselves based off anonymous sources. And we all know there probably isn’t a more thin-skinned profession than sports journalists. Having said that, a kid died. Muschamp should’ve known that anything but a full condemnation of Durkin could be viewed as a defense of his actions.
The worse the Maryland story gets, the more it will be used against Muschamp on the recruiting trail. Hopefully everything that has come out is all there is to know.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:53 pm to Carolina_Girl
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If I could do this as a nurse I'd be pretty damn rich.
Yeaaa haha that doesn’t seem like one of those where you can
Posted on 8/14/18 at 9:54 pm to Bluefin
Agreed Bluefin.
And he wouldn’t have come back with a second comment on it if someone didn’t tell him the first comment he made wasn’t right
And he wouldn’t have come back with a second comment on it if someone didn’t tell him the first comment he made wasn’t right
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:19 pm to Bluefin
Someone may try to use it on the recruiting trail ... but most seriously doubt it.
More likely is that if someone does try to use it on the recruiting trail it will backfire. Because among most alpha males I can tell you, the first and most important thing is to have your buddy's back. Loyalty, esprit de corp, cover their six.
All else can be explained later.
Furthermore, frick all this #metoo politically correct bullshite. Most alpha males are fricking fed up with guilty until proven innocent.
When Boom tells a recruit, "I got your back" (and he is well known for it among players) recruits will believe it. Furthermore, so will momma's and daddies. This, along with showing off our state of the art heat exhaustion preventative measures not the least of which is our state of the art $300k cooling tunnel ... we'll suffer zero kickback from his comments and, more likely, we'll benefit from them.
Matter of fact, I know for a fact, that all he has received from his players and staff and peers ... is positive feedback and total support.
If anyone of these radio and TV pundit asshats bothered to actually watch his comments on video (other than the lefty asshats) there is no question what he said was exactly what he should have said ... it was off the cuff and his first instict was to be loyal and have his buddy's back.
Durkin is innocent until proven guilty. The great majority of his past and present players are 100% behind him and Boom was 100% correct. When you hear about a disgruntled player during summer workouts it's usually someone who isn't playing and is holding a grudge. And when they speak anonymously about something as serious as this - yeah, they're fricking cowards. Wanna be brave, wanna show courage? Step up to the plate come out in the sunlight and stand-up for what you believe in.
All men have to do it eventually on some level. Any kid claiming he is scared of repercussions is a pussy with a grudge. I mean what's Durkin going to do to him, to them, make them run sprints? Spank them in front of the team? Have them knocked-off?
Believe me, players tell coaches to pound sand all the time and nine times out of ten, if they do it right the coach respects them and they work it out. If they do it wrong, yeah, they're probably gone but that usually works out better for everyone involved if they do it wrong.
Boom's recruiting will not suffer in the least from this and, if a kid were to say this made a difference in his decision ... then he's a fricking beta cuck SJW snowflake and he would have been the first one causing us problems down the road.
With all of that said, what the S&C coach did up there is inexcusable. This will be a massive financial hit to UM ... $300 million wouldn't surprise me although I believe, from what I am hearing from a couple of my UM friends, one who is big time alumni there (his daughter is my Goddaughter who is down here attending SC and headed into her Junior year) and the other an actual Engineering Professor there that I served with ... both are telling me the settlement has already been tentatively reached and agreed upon with part of that agreement being a mea culpa from their Chancellor today.
This is tragic, this is inexcusable and was avoidable, but this fell on the S&C Coach ... not Durkin. Now, Durkin's head may still roll but that's just the way things are these days. Football is a tough game.
So please allow me to throw a question out here.
Your Son has been offered by Boom mUSChamp.
Are you worried about your kid dying of heat exhaustion at SC?
Are you worried that Boom is too tough?
Are you worried about Boom being insensitive?
Or, do you wanna know that if your kid gets in trouble for something, or slips up, or makes a mistake ... do you wanna know that Boom has your Son's back?
More likely is that if someone does try to use it on the recruiting trail it will backfire. Because among most alpha males I can tell you, the first and most important thing is to have your buddy's back. Loyalty, esprit de corp, cover their six.
All else can be explained later.
Furthermore, frick all this #metoo politically correct bullshite. Most alpha males are fricking fed up with guilty until proven innocent.
When Boom tells a recruit, "I got your back" (and he is well known for it among players) recruits will believe it. Furthermore, so will momma's and daddies. This, along with showing off our state of the art heat exhaustion preventative measures not the least of which is our state of the art $300k cooling tunnel ... we'll suffer zero kickback from his comments and, more likely, we'll benefit from them.
Matter of fact, I know for a fact, that all he has received from his players and staff and peers ... is positive feedback and total support.
If anyone of these radio and TV pundit asshats bothered to actually watch his comments on video (other than the lefty asshats) there is no question what he said was exactly what he should have said ... it was off the cuff and his first instict was to be loyal and have his buddy's back.
Durkin is innocent until proven guilty. The great majority of his past and present players are 100% behind him and Boom was 100% correct. When you hear about a disgruntled player during summer workouts it's usually someone who isn't playing and is holding a grudge. And when they speak anonymously about something as serious as this - yeah, they're fricking cowards. Wanna be brave, wanna show courage? Step up to the plate come out in the sunlight and stand-up for what you believe in.
All men have to do it eventually on some level. Any kid claiming he is scared of repercussions is a pussy with a grudge. I mean what's Durkin going to do to him, to them, make them run sprints? Spank them in front of the team? Have them knocked-off?
Believe me, players tell coaches to pound sand all the time and nine times out of ten, if they do it right the coach respects them and they work it out. If they do it wrong, yeah, they're probably gone but that usually works out better for everyone involved if they do it wrong.
Boom's recruiting will not suffer in the least from this and, if a kid were to say this made a difference in his decision ... then he's a fricking beta cuck SJW snowflake and he would have been the first one causing us problems down the road.
With all of that said, what the S&C coach did up there is inexcusable. This will be a massive financial hit to UM ... $300 million wouldn't surprise me although I believe, from what I am hearing from a couple of my UM friends, one who is big time alumni there (his daughter is my Goddaughter who is down here attending SC and headed into her Junior year) and the other an actual Engineering Professor there that I served with ... both are telling me the settlement has already been tentatively reached and agreed upon with part of that agreement being a mea culpa from their Chancellor today.
This is tragic, this is inexcusable and was avoidable, but this fell on the S&C Coach ... not Durkin. Now, Durkin's head may still roll but that's just the way things are these days. Football is a tough game.
So please allow me to throw a question out here.
Your Son has been offered by Boom mUSChamp.
Are you worried about your kid dying of heat exhaustion at SC?
Are you worried that Boom is too tough?
Are you worried about Boom being insensitive?
Or, do you wanna know that if your kid gets in trouble for something, or slips up, or makes a mistake ... do you wanna know that Boom has your Son's back?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:01 am to Carolina_Girl
I have no problem with his comments, it’s just how he said it.
He should’ve mentioned first and foremost the death of the kid and thoughts and everything like he did in his clarification afterwards.
Something like “it’s a terrible situation blah blah blah but I know DJ and he’s a great husband, father, etc and if it comes out that he was involved I’ll be surprised and disappointed”
Except worded much better. And THEN mention the anonymous stuff
He should’ve mentioned first and foremost the death of the kid and thoughts and everything like he did in his clarification afterwards.
Something like “it’s a terrible situation blah blah blah but I know DJ and he’s a great husband, father, etc and if it comes out that he was involved I’ll be surprised and disappointed”
Except worded much better. And THEN mention the anonymous stuff
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:26 am to scrooster
not gonna lie, TLDR, but Ill throw you an upvote for good measure.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 10:39 am to scrooster
Reporters can and do ruin people's lives with impunity using nothing but anonymous sources. Look at what happened to Richard Jewell, Duke lacrosse and the UVA fraternity featured in that bs Rolling Stone article. A healthy amount of skepticism and cynicism towards the media should be viewed as a good thing.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:14 am to SCLibertarian
I'm kind of surprised at his comments. He usually is well prepared for any possible questions and answers with a "next question" response. I think he could have handled this better. He could have supported his former employee by saying " he was always a man of character that treated our players with respect" type of response. When you insert your opinion in a situation where you don't have all the facts, things can turn ugly.This kid was in an obvious medical crisis that someone with basic first aid training would have recognized. If Durkin was present and had knowledge, he is toast.
Posted on 8/15/18 at 11:21 am to Carolina_Girl
Did he steal their rock?
Posted on 8/15/18 at 12:11 pm to Cheese Grits
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Did he steal their rock?
Nah, he showed what big ones he has by flaming the media and supporting his friend.
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