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re: So I got into an argument about JUCOs this morning.

Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:34 am to
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:


well I'd say you lost that argument


I think you mean his friend did
Posted by KeoDawg
Member since Nov 2016
183 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:35 am to
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Darius Slay and Montez Sweat are the big recent ones that come to mind.


Pernell Mcphee and LB Chris White recently- still in the NFL
Fred Smoot- CB
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:38 am to
Your UGA friend was spouting Richtism's, he disliked JUCOs but still took them.

Kirby is a stone cold sausage grinder when it comes to roster management. He lies awake at night thinking of how to improve his roster at all positions.

Richt laid awake at night dreaming of ways to kick kids off the team and leave gaps in our roster. His best work was a post spring break drug test.
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
11559 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:39 am to
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I think you mean his friend did



shite!

I've failed again
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:39 am to
Most JUCO are former high school stars who couldn't get accepted because of grades issues. Their ratings are lower than high schoolers for some reason. I would think they would be rated higher because they are 1 and 2 years removed from high school.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:53 am to
As a whole, juco transfers are generally over-rated.

The exceptions are often P5 football players who go JuCo and come back P5.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 9:57 am to
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Leonard Floyd was pretty good. Spent a year at Hargrave Military Academy.

I think he did ok for Georgia.


Hargrave is grades 7-12.5

It isn't a juco. Floyd didn't use any college eligibility there.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:49 am to
D Byrd
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7512 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:51 am to
Martrell Spaight was a tackling machine in 2014 for us and led the SEC in them. Sebastian Tretola was another good one, won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy. There have been some duds as well. From what I've noticed it seems a lot of them have quite a bit of talent but are missing something else which is why they went to JUCO in the first place.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15649 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 10:58 am to
JUCO guys if you have a bad team or your roster is severely deficient can provide a solid stop gap while you fill the ranks again with the problems with your roster. That said, you can never get overly dependent on JUCO talent or players. These players often don't have many years to play yet they take a 3/4 players spot so they often times have limited value and sometimes they come in and can't even crack the starting lineup meaning their value is depth at a position where you want rookies and younger guys to fill those positions to improve your future. If we sign a Juco I would like the Juco to be very talented or fill a position of absolute need. If your just going after JUCOs non stop and signing 4/5 a year your probably going to have a bad time.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:00 am to
Our best JUCO guys were sign and place.

Sheldon Richardson and Markus Golden come to mind.
Posted by Daddyof4
Country Club, MO
Member since Sep 2014
1126 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:06 am to
Reggie Nelson was pretty good for us during 06’ ship year
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
19126 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:10 am to
For UT...just off the top of my head...

Charlie Garner
Dale Carter
Leonard Little
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63885 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:15 am to
Richt used to take JUCO's to get warm bodies to fill out the roster. That's why your UGA friend is conditioned to not care.

NT Chris Mayes was probably the only standout JUCO that Richt ever got.

When you start getting the top JUCO's, like Kirby is starting to do, it really is great, and they really do matter.
Posted by CarolinaDawg
Richmond Hill, GA
Member since Sep 2007
140 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:34 am to
Ok, so he went the prep school route. I just remembered he was committed in 2 different classes.
Posted by CockyTime
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3148 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:38 am to
For all the crap he got, Jamarcus King ended up being decent for us the last few years
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50233 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 11:43 am to
JUCOs are nice stop gaps to fill holes from poor recruiting, injuries, or too many guys leaving early. If you built your team around them then you're building to collapse and won't keep it up (see KSU).
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