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re: Henry Ruggs involved in serious car accident (Ruggs charged with DUI)

Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19765 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:16 pm to
People who drink and drive are POS.

End of story.
Posted by ExpertTestimony
Member since Sep 2021
266 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:16 pm to
Sad for Ruggs and the folks involved.

You just have to know your limit. I drive above .08 all the time because I know my limits. Never hurt anyone.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93940 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

I drive above .08 all the time

Dumbass
quote:

I know my limits.

Doesn't sound like it.
quote:

Never hurt anyone.

Yet
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36702 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:20 pm to
Imagine the comments if this was a former LSU player.

quote:

You just have to know your limit. I drive above .08 all the time because I know my limits. Never hurt anyone.


Or, you could just not drink and drive.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2852 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:22 pm to
I lost a close childhood friend to a drunk driver. If guilty, I hope Ruggs goes to prison for a long time.

The guy that killed my buddy got 7 years..served 3.. He's a piece of shite and will eventually kill or injure someone else.

My wife saw him in the grocery store buying 2 cases of beer 3 weeks after he got out..
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65514 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

I have this talk with my daughter all the time. She is named after the coolest person I have ever known that died in a car accident worse than this when we were 19. You have to use other's mistakes as learning tool to make yourself a better person.

Yep, I was an idiot when I was younger, and I had a major wakeup call when one of my best friends died in a drunk driving accident when I was in college. Fortunately, he didn't hurt anyone else (and the guy riding with him was wearing a seatbelt), but it shook all of us to our cores.
This post was edited on 11/2/21 at 1:24 pm
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23433 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:35 pm to
Saw someone post this:
quote:

The thing that sucks the most is that the NFL has a system in place for players that can’t drive and don’t want to call an Uber. Ruggs had a privilege that literally less than 5,000 people in the world have and he decided not to use it. Ended up costing someone their life.

That’s a new one on me—does the NFL actually have something like that? Sounds like a great idea, and could prevent this exact situation.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:37 pm to
NRS 484C.440

NRS 484C.440 Penalties for vehicular homicide; segregation of offender; plea bargaining restricted; suspension of sentence and probation prohibited; aggravating factor.

1. A person who commits vehicular homicide pursuant to NRS 484C.130 is guilty of a category A felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison:

(a) For life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 10 years has been served; or

(b) For a definite term of 25 years, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 10 years has been served.

2. A person imprisoned pursuant to subsection 1 must, insofar as practicable, be segregated from offenders whose crimes were violent and, insofar as practicable, be assigned to an institution or facility of minimum security.

3. A prosecuting attorney shall not dismiss a charge of vehicular homicide in exchange for a plea of guilty, guilty but mentally ill or nolo contendere to a lesser charge or for any other reason unless the attorney knows or it is obvious that the charge is not supported by probable cause or cannot be proved at the time of trial. A sentence imposed pursuant to subsection 1 may not be suspended nor may probation be granted.

4. If the defendant was transporting a person who is less than 15 years of age in the vehicle at the time of the violation, the court shall consider that fact as an aggravating factor in determining the sentence of the defendant.

(Added to NRS by 2005, 138; A 2007, 1454; 2009, 1873) — (Substituted in revision for part of NRS 484.37955)



NRS 484C.130


NRS 484C.130 Vehicular homicide; affirmative defense. [Effective until the date of the repeal of the federal law requiring each state to make it unlawful for a person to operate a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08 percent or greater as a condition to receiving federal funding for the construction of highways in this State.]

1. A person commits vehicular homicide if the person:

(a) Drives or is in actual physical control of a vehicle on or off the highways of this State and:

(1) Is under the influence of intoxicating liquor;

(2) Has a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath;

(3) Is found by measurement within 2 hours after driving or being in actual physical control of a vehicle to have a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath;

(4) Is under the influence of a controlled substance or is under the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and a controlled substance;

(5) Inhales, ingests, applies or otherwise uses any chemical, poison or organic solvent, or any compound or combination of any of these, to a degree which renders the person incapable of safely driving or exercising actual physical control of a vehicle; or

(6) Has a prohibited substance in his or her blood or urine, as applicable, in an amount that is equal to or greater than the amount set forth in subsection 3 or 4 of NRS 484C.110;

(b) Proximately causes the death of another person while driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle on or off the highways of this State; and

(c) Has previously been convicted of at least three offenses.

2. If consumption is proven by a preponderance of the evidence, it is an affirmative defense under subparagraph (3) of paragraph (a) of subsection 1 that the defendant consumed a sufficient quantity of alcohol after driving or being in actual physical control of the vehicle, and before his or her blood or breath was tested, to cause the defendant to have a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath. A defendant who intends to offer this defense at a trial or preliminary hearing must, not less than 14 days before the trial or hearing or at such other time as the court may direct, file and serve on the prosecuting attorney a written notice of that intent.

3. As used in this section, “offense” means:

(a) A violation of NRS 484C.110, 484C.120 or 484C.430;

(b) A homicide resulting from driving or being in actual physical control of a vehicle while under the influence of intoxicating liquor or a controlled substance or resulting from any other conduct prohibited by this section or NRS 484C.110 or 484C.430; or

(c) A violation of a law of any other jurisdiction that prohibits the same or similar conduct as set forth in paragraph (a) or (b).

(Added to NRS by 2005, 138; A 2007, 1454; 2009, 1873; 2017, 306) — (Substituted in revision for part of NRS 484.37955)


Looks like he will be gone for a minimum of 10 years, and the wrongful death suit will probably clean him out.

10 years and no money.

Really sad...for everyone.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22448 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

He will be charged with DUI resulting in death.
Wow, he's screwed
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

You just have to know your limit. I drive above .08 all the time because I know my limits. Never hurt anyone.


Or you could just never drive above the legal limit because it’s an easy enough way to play it safe and make sure you don’t hurt yourself or others.
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23433 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

1. A person commits vehicular homicide if the person:
(b) Proximately causes the death of another person while driving or in actual physical control of a vehicle on or off the highways of this State; and
(c)Has previously been convicted of at least three offenses.

Is that stating that vehicular homicide must include prior offenses?

Or is the "and" supposed to be "or?"

I'm confused by the way the verbiage is written.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18121 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:46 pm to
He's a dumbass, just fricking stupid.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Is that stating that vehicular homicide must include prior offenses?

Or is the "and" supposed to be "or?"

I'm confused by the way the verbiage is written.


No, I think you are correct. Vehicular homicide is not available unless he has been convicted 3 times before.

"AND" usually means all the above and below must be met.



So, it would go back to NRS 484c.450:

NRS 484C.430 Penalty if death or substantial bodily harm results; exception; segregation of offender; plea bargaining restricted; suspension of sentence and probation prohibited; affirmative defense; exception; aggravating factor. [Effective until the date of the repeal of the federal law requiring each state to make it unlawful for a person to operate a motor vehicle with a blood alcohol concentration of 0.08 percent or greater as a condition to receiving federal funding for the construction of highways in this State.]

1. Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to NRS 484C.440, a person who:

(a) Is under the influence of intoxicating liquor;

(b) Has a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath;

(c) Is found by measurement within 2 hours after driving or being in actual physical control of a vehicle to have a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath;

(d) Is under the influence of a controlled substance or is under the combined influence of intoxicating liquor and a controlled substance;

(e) Inhales, ingests, applies or otherwise uses any chemical, poison or organic solvent, or any compound or combination of any of these, to a degree which renders the person incapable of safely driving or exercising actual physical control of a vehicle; or

(f) Has a prohibited substance in his or her blood or urine, as applicable, in an amount that is equal to or greater than the amount set forth in subsection 3 or 4 of NRS 484C.110,

Ê and does any act or neglects any duty imposed by law while driving or in actual physical control of any vehicle on or off the highways of this State, if the act or neglect of duty proximately causes the death of, or substantial bodily harm to, another person, is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 2 years and a maximum term of not more than 20 years and must be further punished by a fine of not less than $2,000 nor more than $5,000. A person so imprisoned must, insofar as practicable, be segregated from offenders whose crimes were violent and, insofar as practicable, be assigned to an institution or facility of minimum security.

2. A prosecuting attorney shall not dismiss a charge of violating the provisions of subsection 1 in exchange for a plea of guilty, guilty but mentally ill or nolo contendere to a lesser charge or for any other reason unless the attorney knows or it is obvious that the charge is not supported by probable cause or cannot be proved at the time of trial. A sentence imposed pursuant to subsection 1 may not be suspended nor may probation be granted.

3. Except as otherwise provided in subsection 4, if consumption is proven by a preponderance of the evidence, it is an affirmative defense under paragraph (c) of subsection 1 that the defendant consumed a sufficient quantity of alcohol after driving or being in actual physical control of the vehicle, and before his or her blood or breath was tested, to cause the defendant to have a concentration of alcohol of 0.08 or more in his or her blood or breath. A defendant who intends to offer this defense at a trial or preliminary hearing must, not less than 14 days before the trial or hearing or at such other time as the court may direct, file and serve on the prosecuting attorney a written notice of that intent.

4. If the defendant is also charged with violating the provisions of NRS 484E.010, 484E.020 or 484E.030, the defendant may not offer the affirmative defense set forth in subsection 3.

5. If the defendant was transporting a person who is less than 15 years of age in the motor vehicle at the time of the violation, the court shall consider that fact as an aggravating factor in determining the sentence of the defendant.

(Added to NRS by 1973, 447; A 1979, 1484; 1981, 1926; 1983, 1073; 1985, 818, 1015; 1989, 1111; 1991, 220, 489, 498, 837; 1995, 312, 1300, 2473; 1997, 644; 1999, 2452, 3422; 2001, 172; 2003, 1492, 2560; 2005, 144; 2007, 1453; 2015, 1364; 2017, 308) — (Substituted in revision for NRS 484.3795)



2 years minimum
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23433 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

2 years minimum

Makes sense, and matches what we've seen elsewhere (2-20 years).
Posted by bamaboy87
Member since Jan 2009
15164 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:57 pm to
He’s a fricking idiot. If he really was drunk or impaired he deserves to go to prison for this. There’s no excuse for that. Even less for a person in his situation that has the means to not be a fricking idiot.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6791 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23433 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:01 pm to





Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23433 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

Prior to the crash, it appears Ruggs was at a local Top Golf location in Vegas, he posted video from the facility just before midnight.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5731 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:04 pm to
I have no sympathy at all for him. He should go to prison for a long time. Nothing good comes from alcohol...nothing. It's destroyed more lives than anything else. No reason to drink a single beer in my book.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2512 posts
Posted on 11/2/21 at 2:08 pm to
Lol, okay. I'm a bad person cuz I lay in bed watching movies with my wife while drinking, or playing video games with a friend while I drink a beer.
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