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re: Biggest “One-Hit Wonders” this century, per 247Sports
Posted on 5/28/21 at 11:38 pm to Tigerman97
Posted on 5/28/21 at 11:38 pm to Tigerman97
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Except the criteria they used means 2019 LSU fits it perfectly. This isn't rocket science.
No it doesn't.
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Posted on 5/29/21 at 6:06 am to SidewalkTiger
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Except the criteria they used means 2019 LSU fits it perfectly. This isn't rocket science.
No it doesn't.
after last season they probably think Orgeron is a definite 1 hit wonder. A lot of people do.
edit to say that the first LSU national title was Nick Saban, the 2nd was due to the Saban influence was still prevalent. Nick Saban ain't walking back through that door. Orgeron just got lucky with Brady and the one good year for Burrow. The precipitous fall the next year, worse than any title winning team in my lifetime, proved that. So 1 hit wonder.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 6:11 am
Posted on 5/29/21 at 6:08 am to BLG
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after last season they probably think Orgeron is a definite 1 hit wonder. A lot of people do.
Including a good many LSU fans.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 6:56 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:And yet you obsess about LSU. Some incongruity here.
But I often forget about them.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:03 am to SidewalkTiger
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No it doesn't.
Start naming college football teams, in the y2ks, that have had a -10 win differential between consecutive seasons. I'll wait.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:20 am to BLG
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Orgeron just got lucky with Brady and the one good year for Burrow.
They went 10-3 and won a NY6 bowl the year prior.
The same graphic has 2017 Miami up there for going 10-3.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:23 am to MoarKilometers
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Start naming college football teams, in the y2ks, that have had a -10 win differential between consecutive seasons. I'll wait.
The team that won a national title in 2019 was basically an entirely different group from the one the won 5 games in 2020.
Again, it's interesting that Bammers use the "no cupcakes" argument when defending 2020 Bama as the GOAT team yet "forgetting" about it when trashing 2020 LSU.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:30 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 5/29/21 at 8:58 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Anybody wanna guess how many posts SidewaysTiger has on this ONE thread (last 36 hrs)?
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:02 am to ImayGoLesMiles
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How is the 2019 LSU national title a one hit wonder?
The criteria clearly stated in the article matches 2019 LSU.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:34 am to coachcrisp
That guy must be 25 years or younger. He is a sad little fella.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:40 am to Tuscaloosa
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per 247Sports
gump arse-paper.
Nobody reads that stupid shite.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 9:58 am to 19
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gump arse-paper.
Nobody reads that stupid shite.
The world wide leader in college sports.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:07 am to Tigerman97
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The criteria clearly stated in the article matches 2019 LSU.
No it doesnt.
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It's not a simple question to answer, but we identified -- in chronological order -- 10 teams this century that rose from mediocrity or being on the cusp of the next level to title-contender seemingly overnight, only for it be a short-lived stay in the upper echelon of the sport.
2019 LSU didn't rise up "seemingly overnight," they finished 2018 at #6 and started 2019 at #6.
They weren't "mediocre" in 2018, they also weren't "on the cusp of the next level" since the same article defined 2017 Miami with the same record as being a "title contender."
The article contradicts itself.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:32 am to Tuscaloosa
This makes no sense. LSU has won 3 titles and been arguably the 2nd best program in the country since 2000.
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:34 am to SidewalkTiger
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No it doesn't.
It literally does.
You selectively chose to ignore the actual criteria.
we did establish some ground rules: Any "one-hit wonder" season had to see the said team reach double-digit victories, and the team had to see its win total drop by multiple games the ensuing season. Double-digit wins in the season directly after the "one-hit wonder" candidate season also served as an automatic disqualifier. So as magical as the 2016 season was for USC, Penn State and Washington, none of those teams made the list when considering the thresholds they reached in 2017.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 10:37 am
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:35 am to Tigerman97
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It literally does.
I pointed out above how it doesn't, why'd you ignore that part?
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:39 am to SidewalkTiger
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I pointed out above how it doesn't, why'd you ignore that part?
However, you didn't use their criteria. You used your own. Maybe for clarity you should state I don't agree with their criteria or though I acknowledge by their criteria 2019 LSU is a "one hit wonder" I am insecure and will choose to argue my own criteria.
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10 teams this century that rose from mediocrity or being on the cusp of the next level to title-contender (2018 LSU to 2019 LSU, check) seemingly overnight, only for it be a short-lived stay in the upper echelon of the sport.
While there's no exact science to this list, we did establish some ground rules: Any "one-hit wonder" season had to see the said team reach double-digit victories, and the team had to see its win total drop by multiple games the ensuing season. (2019 LSU to 2020 LSU, check)
Notice the article quantifies you can rise from mediocrity or from being on the cusps of title contention.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 10:44 am
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:44 am to Tigerman97
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or being on the cusp of the next level to title-contender (2018 LSU to 2019 LSU, check)
How is 2018 10-3 LSU "on the cusp" but 2017 10-3 Miami a "title contender."
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Notice the article quantifies you can rise from mediocrity or from being on the cusps of title contention.
2017 Miami only won one more game than 2016 Miami it's hard to see that as a "rise from mediocrity" to the "cusp of title contention."
This article contradicts itself.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 5/29/21 at 10:52 am to SidewalkTiger
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How is 2018 10-3 LSU "on the cusp" but 2017 10-3 Miami a "title contender."
Again...you may disagree with the criteria, but baed on it 2019 LSU fits the bill.
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2017 Miami only won one more game than 2016 Miami it's hard to see that as a "rise from mediocrity" to the "cusp of title contention."
This article contradicts itself.
It's ok to disagree with the criteria, but based on it 2019 LSU fits the bill.
It is obvious the article stretches a bit to find a team each season, but based on the stated criteria 2019 wasn't one of the stretches. I assume title contention is based on the reality that Miami would have been a playoff team if they had beaten Clemson that season in the ACC Championship. Where as 2018 LSU was eliminated on November 3 when bama whacked them 29-0.
This post was edited on 5/29/21 at 10:53 am
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