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What’s the knock on Napier?

Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:36 am
Is there one?

Head Coach at Louisiana. Inherited program that had losing season for three straight years.

He goes 7-7, 11-3, and is 9-1 this year. Tied for division title the first year. Won the division the next two. Sun Belt Coach of the Year last year.


OC/QB coach at Clemson
Analyst/WR coach at Bama
Assistant HC and QB coach at Colorado State
OC/QB coach at Arizona State


Think he’s my favorite that I’ve seen.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:39 am to
I think he should be our guy. Maybe his age? He is a youngen and AU is a crazy job.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:40 am to
He is my second choice. Not that my choice matters.

Solid recruiter
No nonsense- heard that he has some traits similar to Saban
Good program builder


He might be the best choice in the long run.
This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 10:42 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:41 am to
Who’s your first?
Posted by kung fu kenny
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:43 am to
Sure, his resume is nice. But in the end you’re hiring a Sun Belt winner, which is what Gus was. I think we need someone more established.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:43 am to
Cristobal. But I am really warming up to Napier. He might be a better "coach" than Cristobal. Napier can recruit also.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:45 am to
Gus had one year at ASU, and followed Freeze. Napier came into a disaster and has flourished. His WR corp at Bama this year is tops in the nation. I am big on past success as an indicator of the future.
This post was edited on 12/14/20 at 10:46 am
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:47 am to
I would be very happy if we hired him.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:50 am to
IMO, he should be #1. I would also vet the Indiana coach. He has SEC ties. Mario scares me as a gameday coach. Freeze is crazy.
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 10:55 am to
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IMO, he should be #1. I would also vet the Indiana coach. He has SEC ties. Mario scares me as a gameday coach. Freeze is crazy.

I don't get all the love for Cristobal. Oregon? That program was built up years ago. Any mediocre coach could step into that job and win the PAC-12 almost every year. He's a pretty good recruiter, but his best job doing that was at Alabama, and again, pretty easy place to get kids to go to win you are on top and having multiple 1st round picks every year.

Napier sound like the guy, to me.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:08 am to
Napier in my opinion has done a much better job than Cristobol. He can build a program so it seems. He may be young but if he is a success then we have a coach for a good while...would love to have a dynamic offense along with a defense that we have had in the past. That would make us contenders every year. I don't see that with Cristobol. To me he hasn't shown a dynamic offense. I like the new Indiana Offense and the Rajun Cajuns offense somewhat...
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Sure, his resume is nice. But in the end you’re hiring a Sun Belt winner, which is what Gus was. I think we need someone more established.


You know it’s extremely rare to find a established winner at the P5 level right? Bama got lucky that Saban was available. Doesn’t really happen that much.

But if you can name me one sure.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:19 am to
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I don't get all the love for Cristobal. Oregon? That program was built up years ago. Any mediocre coach could step into that job and win the PAC-12 almost every year. He's a pretty good recruiter, but his best job doing that was at Alabama, and again, pretty easy place to get kids to go to win you are on top and having multiple 1st round picks every year.


I mean, it sounds like you came to a conclusion and are just going to talk your way into believing it regardless. Oregon is not in any way, shape or, form, an "easy" school to win at. He has taken their recruiting to a level that no coach - not even Chip Kelly - came close to reaching. That school is NOT easy to recruit to: they have zero instate talent, and who the frick wants to go to school in Eugene, Oregon? Cristobal's elite recruiting was also confirmed at Miami. At Alabama, he spearheaded the entire recruiting effort as both the RC and AHC - its lame to just say "oh its Alabama that means nothing". He was by far the best recruiter on a staff of "All Star" recruiters. Literally the same thing was said about Kirby who has continued his recruiting prowess at Georgia. Everyone who I have heard from who knows anything has told me that Cristobal is a Top-5 recruiting HC. He's that good, and now consider that despite having zero West-Coast ties, he is recruiting better than anyone who has ever held that Oregon job. At Auburn, he'd be stepping back into the region where he actually has built-in pipelines.

The other thing about Cristobl is his pedigree. Two NC wins at Miami under Jimmy Johnson. Then moved to coaching where he tutored under Greg Schiano who is a no-nonsense type that while an a-hole, is a legitimately good coach. Cristobal was there at Rutgers when they turned that program around and sent players to the league. Then the 4-years as Saban's right-hand man during their dominance. He's picked up a lot of the intangibles required to build and maintain a program from the experiences that he has. Saban knew what he was doing when he hired him and immediately gave him the AC and RC title.


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:26 am to
I have also heard that he would be Sabans choice to follow him. Might not be true, but Saban did put a lot of confidence in him. I keep hearing that he does not sustain or he is not a good game day coach. What is your opinion of that?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:30 am to
Also the idea that anyone can win at Oregon is completely ignoring what happened after Kelly left.

Helfrich came in and won with Kelly’s players. Then went 9-4 and 4-8 in his third and fourth years. Then Taggert came in and went 7-6.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:31 am to
Cristobal is a better recruiter then Napier.
Napier is a better Xs and Os coach.

Cristobal would be CEO type.
Napier would be calling plays as coach and OC.

A lot as always depends on the staff either chooses.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:35 am to
I think that you are right on there.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:38 am to
Napier is my number one as well.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4458 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:46 am to
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I have also heard that he would be Sabans choice to follow him. Might not be true, but Saban did put a lot of confidence in him. I keep hearing that he does not sustain or he is not a good game day coach. What is your opinion of that?



Yes, I've brought that up as well here. I've heard from multiple people that he is Saban's choice to replace him. He impressed him a LOT during his time at Alabama.

The "gameday coach" stuff is entirely up in the air. I've literally heard people state that Saban is a bad gameday coach. 95% of this job at this level is "CEO" type stuff: recruiting, assembling a staff of recruiters and coaches, and setting a team IDENTITY with a prolonged vision. The 5% "gameday" crap is up in the air - we've seen Gus beat Saban and Urban struggle with Tommy Tuberville. Everyone is going to lose games; the goal here is to find an elite recruiter who understands program building and how to get there. Cristobal has the makeup of this type of coach, and I can't stress enough how important recruiting is at this level. He understands things like the fact that you NEED to build both sides of the football at the lines. He would also assemble an elite staff here as he has built connections and is the type who's recruiting ability also extends to recruiting coaches.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45015 posts
Posted on 12/14/20 at 11:55 am to
I am fine with either Cristobal or Napier. I think those two are the best on the market
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