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re: Ranks these QBs (Burrow,Mac,Trask)

Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
2178 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:40 pm to
Burrow

Trask - carrying a great offense on his back. May have all of ONE first rd pick playing with him.



Jones
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 2:15 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:56 pm to
quote:

Now, go away before you embarrass yourself, any further!


Mac is basically a soldier on the shooting team.

He's in an air conditioned building with the best equipment firing away under pristine conditions. He asks for nothing, he has everything he wants.

Trask and Burrow were basically the reason Florida and LSU can be considered elite. They're soldiers. They go to war, they win the wars way more often than they lose them. They're battle-tested.

Mac is not. It's not to say he wouldn't be a good "soldier", but what's asked of him isn't nearly the same. Consider:

Alabama looks virtually the same every year. You guys win pretty much all or all of the games no matter who plays Quarterback.

Before Trask, our offense scored on average for the last decade: 27.2 per season.

With Trask's first start (where he started at the beginning of the year): 42.

With Burrow LSU had the most prolific offense in the country, probably a top 3 all time. Without him, their offense can't seem to do much at all.

Mac will leave Alabama, and your offense will be virtually the same with the next guy. Why? Because the Alabama QB position is one of the most pampered positions in the country.

You only have to make one read over 50% of the time.

Your receivers are all studs.

Your offensive line is huge and well coached.

Your RBs are consistently amazing.

The majority of your throws are probably one on one.

To say he's great when he hasn't had to actually win games with his arms, or had to throw to win as I like to put it, is premature.

He may be very good, but until he actually has pressure to make plays, we can't know if he's as good as Joe or Kyle. This also isn't a nod to say that he's a bad Quarterback, simply acknowledging that he is in the most favorable of positions to be successful.
This post was edited on 12/8/20 at 11:59 pm
Posted by midcitycid
Member since Nov 2008
855 posts
Posted on 12/8/20 at 11:58 pm to
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Burrow won an NC while playing for a team coached by Ed DuBorgeron. I love Mac but nothing he will ever do can match that. It's not like going from nothing to something. It's like being stillborn and going on to be elected President of the World.


That right there is funny; i dont care who you are. Ed DuBorgeon....leave poor mike dubose alone....
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22177 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:07 am to
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May have all of ONE first rd pick playing with him.


Trask is not playing with "chicken shite" as someone so eloquently put it. He has both Toney and Pitts that catch the majority of his passes. As good as a QB is, the receivers have to be good as well for him to have the stats

Period
Posted by OkefenokeeKid
Southeast Georgia
Member since Oct 2018
230 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:39 am to
I think every one of them has been a product of a offense designed to showcase their skills.


Burrow is by far the best athlete of the three.

Mac throws a great deep ball.

Trask reads defenses really well and makes good decisions majority of the time.

I'm a gator so Trask #1
Posted by Go Go Gata
Member since Oct 2016
2178 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:08 am to
quote:

Trask is not playing with "chicken shite" as someone so eloquently put it. He has both Toney and Pitts that catch the majority of his passes. As good as a QB is, the receivers have to be good as well for him to have the stats


Well, someone has to catch passes. No shite.

However, Trask does not have near the talent with him that Jones or Burrow had.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 3:56 am to
Burrow missed how many games as a college qb?
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 4:00 am to
The best statistical season? Where are you getting your information..
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25566 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 6:43 am to
quote:


Does Trask get Mac’s oline?


Florida has given up Less sacks than Alabama

quote:

Mac Jones when blitzed this season:
93.5 passing grade (1st)
13.0 yards per throw (1st)
148.1 passer rating (1st)


Respect the Man
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 7:00 am
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24542 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 7:28 am to
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Alabama looks virtually the same every year. You guys win pretty much all or all of the games no matter who plays Quarterback.


Before Trask, our offense scored on average for the last decade: 27.2 per season.

With Trask's first start (where he started at the beginning of the year): 42.


If you think Alabama looks the same in the Tua-Mac years as they did with Jake Coker and Jalen Hurts it’s because you haven’t been watching
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 7:44 am to
Burrow far above both. Not close.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30956 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 8:01 am to
The greatest part of these threads is seeing LSU fans claim that their “greatest ever” 2019 team was apparently Burrow behind a shite offensive line, throwing to blind receivers and running backs that suffered from Polio.
Posted by AustinKnight
Austin, TX
Member since May 2012
5842 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:18 pm to
Ok guy hope u enjoy another questionable Title just like the other 5-8 that Alabama has.
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4082 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:24 pm to
1.)Burrow
2.)Trask
3.) Jones

Jones has more time than anybody I have ever seen to throw. He will make a nice NFL backup. AJ McCarron 2.0.

Neither one of them would touch 60 touchdowns even with a full slate.
This post was edited on 12/9/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22177 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:40 pm to
LSU had an incredible OL last year, and the receivers were good. Alabama has that this year. Burrow's athleticism puts him above Mac.

Trask is not playing behind a terrible line. If he were, his stats would suck
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53021 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

LSU had an incredible OL last year,


Lol no.

Just above average.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53021 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

The greatest part of these threads is seeing LSU fans claim that their “greatest ever” 2019 team was apparently Burrow behind a shite offensive line, throwing to blind receivers and running backs that suffered from Polio.





Who said that? Link it.

Our offensive line wasn't bad but not dominant either.
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1816 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:05 pm to
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He also had the best OL in CFB


This is flat out wrong. I know we won the award but if you actually watched our games, Burrow and CEH bailed our line over and over again. Bama and Georgia had better offensive lines in the SEC alone.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
22177 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:14 pm to
CEH doesn't bail the OL out. The OL creates the holes, and CEH takes advantage. By the end of the year, those holes were gigantic, and Burrow could sit in the pocket all day long
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53021 posts
Posted on 12/9/20 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

CEH doesn't bail the OL out. The OL creates the holes, and CEH takes advantage. By the end of the year, those holes were gigantic, and Burrow could sit in the pocket all day long


None of this is true.

CEH spun out of and sidestepped so many backfield hits it was unbelievable
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