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re: A short breakdown of the Guice rape allegations

Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:17 pm to
Do we really have to go through this again? Coach O very well could have know that Guice had sex with the girl without knowing that rape had even been alleged.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:21 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:20 pm to
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“I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” He said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete he shouldn’t be bothered by it. “(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’ ” the former player told USA TODAY.

Where in this quote does it say that Orgeron was aware of a rape allegation? Sounds like he could have been trying to defuse a situation involving two players fighting over a girl which I would imagine he's had to deal with quite a bit in his career.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:20 pm to
Coach O should be fired, I mean he will be in two years anyway but still
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36712 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:20 pm to
Is this real?

Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8186 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:21 pm to
You would have a better point if LSU hadn’t affirmatively reached out to have her make a formal complaint/give a statement. It’s not like they ignored the info because the alleged victim didn’t file a formal complaint.

It’s possible Title IX is so hardcore that they want LSU to do a full on investigation based solely on the word of a third party. But I think any reasonable person would agree that’s absurd, and that if a potential victim refuses to give a statement about the alleged incident even after being asked to do so then there’s not much that can be done
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53396 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Coach O should be fired

Why?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73633 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Is this real?


Yes. It is from the VCU game. Here is another.

Posted by TOFTR
Tennissippi
Member since Jan 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:29 pm to
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“(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’ ” the former player told USA TODAY.


How in the frick is this supposed to be a reassuring statement?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53396 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:30 pm to
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How in the frick is this supposed to be a reassuring statement?


It was probably something more like, "We've all been cheated on at some point."
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:31 pm to
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Yeah, it seems fishy though.

Of course it does to you. You would want nothing less than LSU to get hit with allegations for covering something up. And that's why no one cares what you think.

NOTHING in those articles suggest that LSU is even close to covering this up.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93932 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:32 pm to
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How in the frick is this supposed to be a reassuring statement?

Translation: "We've all been there. You're not alone and it doesn't make you less of a man. Go find another girl and focus on football."
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:32 pm to
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STTDB must be banned, as the players were emboldened to act it out. It’s like that school has a culture of rape.


LSU Rapers...
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:33 pm to
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How in the frick is this supposed to be a reassuring statement?




I'm sure it made perfect sense in his caveman brain.
Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
7737 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:33 pm to
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So was this part of the "unreported incidents" at LSU that caused his draft stock to fall in 2018?


I’ve been wondering that myself. It’s coming out through online anecdotes that he was just a POS in general, without people knowing he was a rapist. However when he got arrested last week there was a poster who has been in this thread and is a former LSU athlete who was insinuating there being some kind of problems with violence toward women while he was at LSU. If that type of thing was covered up, the responsible parties need to be fired. Based on the article, it seems like the only person at LSU that could potentially fall under that is the tennis coach. Obviously LSU needs to open an investigation on this immediately.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73633 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:34 pm to
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Translation: "We've all been there. You're not alone and it doesn't make you less of a man. Go find another girl and focus on football."


Which is an appropriate response if one is not aware that there has been a rape allegation. Obviously, it is very inappropriate if one is aware of such an allegation. There is no proof whatsoever that coach had a clue that a rape had been alleged or occurred, however. The article simply said that the player reported that he thought coach O knew about it. That's a whole lot of ifs and assumptions.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 2:03 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93932 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:35 pm to
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I'm sure it made perfect sense in his caveman brain.

That's assuming that he actually even said that and that it's a word for word quote.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13842 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:35 pm to
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No........no, it's really not more accurate.


Correct. Rape Cover-up is the correct phrasing. Unsurprising from a "university" that allowed a mouth rapist/pedo to play.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73633 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:37 pm to
Is that a jizz jar in your sig pic?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53396 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:37 pm to
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Correct. Rape Cover-up is the correct phrasing. Unsurprising from a "university" that allowed a mouth rapist/pedo to play


Who covered up rape?
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:37 pm to
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For those who wouldn't read the full article, if I screwed any of the details up please let me know.


How you screwed up - seem like you don't believe that the same Guice who was released by Washington for assaulting a woman would have also been capable of twice exploiting situations with drunken women and assaulting them.

Likely nothing for LSU to worry about here unless some thing else comes out, but Guice seems like he's done.
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