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re: Looks Like Stafford Has Covid

Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

You got the TDS and that's abundantly clear.

The deflection here is that you're so fricking hardup to shite on Trump, your ONLY goddamn "defense" is to say we're hardup to defend him or tow his line.

You're so fricking blind, you don't even realize you're doing this and that it's WAY WORSE.

Dipshits hating on us and ours = we are entitled to defend ourselves.

That's how this country and everything is supposed to work.

You assholes get bent because we defend against your bullshite and hate, which is fricking insane.

You think you're ENTITLED to attack, accuse, and virtue signal, and we're just supposed to take it up the arse. Well frick you, you retarted assclown.

Man gotdam
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:50 pm to
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It's a new disease, so a lot is still unknown. However, there is evidence of possible long-term effects following recovery.

Why are folks attacking a guy for saying something that is likely true?

"This disease could have lasting effects."

"Commie Scum!!"

Sound like a fricking moron.
Let's say you just got in a car accident, but it's a minor fender-bender where some idiot hit your rear bumper doing maybe 15 mph. And one of your kids is in the car with you and you decide to take her to the hospital just for precautions.

But you call your wife and go, "Honey, we were in a car accident. I have little Jenny at the hospital. She could have long term serious effects from the crash." And that's all you tell her before hanging up the phone.

Now how fricking pissed is your wife going to be when she finds out some dude barely bumped you at a stoplight, there's no damage on your car, your daughter wasn't complaining of any pain, you only took her to the hospital to get checked out, and you made her unnecessarily panic and worried out of her mind thinking your daughter could be a vegetable or invalid for the rest of her life?

She's going to cock-block your idiot arse, probably bitch-slap you into oblivion, and tell you that you're an a-hole and stupid for blowing it out of proportion and leaving her without all the critical details.

And that's how moronic the OP sounds.


You idiot doomer fricks just can't help yourself. You make it apparent that you want this thing to be as worse as possible time and again.

And there's zero surprise that you're trying to defend how stupidly it's presented.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25775 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 4:59 pm to
Your daughter has an XRay and it shows scarring on the daughter's lungs.

The daughter feels fine, but the doctor explains that the scarring could effect her ability to fight off a future flu, pneumonia, or get worse after a 2nd fender bender.

Your analogy tries to equate a novel virus to something that happens 6,000,000 times per year for the last 40 years (fender bender) You didn't do a good job with that example. Maybe you want to try again.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Your daughter has an XRay and it shows scarring on the daughter's lungs.

The daughter feels fine, but the doctor explains that the scarring could effect her ability to fight off a future flu, pneumonia, or get worse after a 2nd fender bender.

Your analogy tries to equate a novel virus to something that happens 6,000,000 times per year for the last 40 years (fender bender) You didn't do a good job with that example. Maybe you want to try again.

WTF are you on about?

A 15 mph bump is going to cause scaring on the lungs? WTF??

You people are imbeciles, I swear.


The point was clearly that the lack of information sent the wife into an ignorance-fueled panic and anxiety, ultimately for no reason, and that it's stupid and irresponsible of the husband to have presented the scenario to her like that.
Posted by P-Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
1872 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:14 pm to
You guys need to relax.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4989 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:28 am to
Not sure it’s been posted yet but Stafford was false positive and his wife is pissed at the NFL for all the bs their family is dealing with because news of him being placed on the COVID list was made public.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:50 am to
quote:

even if you make it through the virus can leave some longterm effects.
You fricking assclown.


NY Post: False-positive

quote:

Lions star QB Matthew Stafford was removed from the NFL’s COVID-IR list on Tuesday, but not after a false-positive test by the league turned his family’s life upside down.

“The past four days have been somewhat of a nightmare,” Stafford’s wife Kelly wrote. “We were all tested the day after and we were all negative, including Matthew…then he tested negative again, then again, again and again.”

Shortly before her Instagram post, Kelly posted a story that simply said, “I am about to lose my s–t.”

Last year, Kelly had surgery to remove a brain tumor. According to the CDC’s guidelines, she would be classified as high risk if she contracts the coronavirus. The Lions posted a statement Tuesday afternoon describing that Stafford is back on the roster after receiving a false positive test.

“I have been losing my mind because of how my Family has been treated since my husband was put on the Covid-IR list,” Kelly, who has four children with Matt, said. “Even after we knew it was a false positive, I was approached in a grocery store told I was ‘endangering others,’ my kids were harassed and kicked off a playground, I was told I needed to wait in my car when trying to pick up food, and people closest to us had to get tested just so they could go back to work… and that’s just to name a few things.”

The Staffords’ experience shines a light on one aspect of just how challenging a situation the NFL faces as it tries to operate its season during the coronavirus pandemic. Kelly explained that she does not blame those around her, just the NFL, which put her family in such a tenuous situation.

“I blame the @NFL for not holding themselves accountable,” Kelly said. These are people’s lives and livelihoods that are in those results in THEIR test sites. Maybe we should be absolutely positive a person has covid before releasing that info to the world. I’m sharing our experience because I don’t want it happening to any other family that plays for this league.”


This is what's happening because of irresponsible fear-mongering pieces of shite like you and many of you here.

You all fricking suck at life and deserve a karma beatdown.

Idiots.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 7:51 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21866 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 8:15 am to
Yea, apparently she had a horrible experience for her whole family and even her friends and neighbors. POS leaked out, but the leak didnt include that he tested negative the following 2 tests....

OP should fix title to:
quote:


Looks Like I was wrong and Stafford DOESNT have Covid...but could have long term psychological effects for the family
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 8:23 am
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Yea, apparently she had a horrible experience for her whole family and even her friends and neighbors. POS leaked out, but the leak didnt include that he tested negative the following 2 tests....

OP should fix title to:
quote:

Looks Like I was wrong and Stafford DOESNT have Covid...but could have long term psychological effects for the family
It's really astounding what's happening out there. People being continually harassed, shamed, accosted, and denied basic human rights and civil liberties for not wearing a mask or being known to have come in contact with someone who could be/allegedly is positive.

And all for a virus that 99.8% (and improving) people recover from, and without a vaccine and without herd-immunity, only has a mortality rate of 0.03% on people over age 65 and 0.005% on people under age 40.

This is insanity. The virtue signaling assholes of the world have their Thor's Hammer and approval from the corrupt media and Establishment to brown-shirt their asses on anyone they want, and it's leading us into further ruin.

And they don't care about the truth or consequences of their actions. They simply feel good and righteous doing all this, which also further's their political agenda and satiates their TDS.

We are so fricked if this continues.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9455 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:01 am to
This thread didn't age well for OP...
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7010 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:13 am to
Idiots who refuse to wear masks are attacking little old ladies who ask them to quit spreading germs.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:55 am to
You are comparing a brand new virus we know nothing about to a mild fender bender which we know everything about. You got them real smarts.

Your strawman arguments are getting old. “Virtually no young people die from COVID!!” No shite, Sherlock. It’s young people spreading it to older people that’s the issue.

Stop accusing everyone of “virtue signaling.” I don’t even know what that means. All I know is you think you’re “owning” people by saying that, but it’s more of a self-own considering how retarded your profanity laced invectives are. Clearly you are the one signaling based on how angry you get. You really need some weed, or more likely, to up your clonazepam to a full on xanny.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

You are comparing a brand new virus we know nothing about to a mild fender bender which we know everything about. You got them real smarts.
Again, you people are fricking morons. I wasn’t comparing COVID to a car accident. The point was about creating/fomenting unfounded hysteria and negative reactions by presenting worse case scenario while not having/giving all information.

I could have made any analogy to show this. But you’re so fricking stupid you and think I’m trying to compare COVID to a car accident. Just damn, man.

quote:

Your strawman arguments are getting old. “Virtually no young people die from COVID!!” No shite, Sherlock. It’s young people spreading it to older people that’s the issue.
I don’t give a frick what you think is getting old. Your lies and fear-mongering doomer hysterics are a detriment to society and you need someone contradicting your bullshite with the truth.

There are ways to protect the elderly and vulnerable without destroying the goddamn economy and stripping us all of our dignity and basic freedoms. Especially when your solutions aren’t fricking solutions at all.

quote:

Stop accusing everyone of “virtue signaling.”
How about no, and go eat a bag of dicks.

Stafford’s family just got harassed and admonished by assholes like you. Because of bullshite like what’s in this thread.

You know damn well what virtue signaling means, you dishonest piece of shite. All you doomer retards do is shite on people to make yourself feel like you’re morally superior. And you don’t like me calling you out on it. Well too bad.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by AUGDawg
Montana
Member since Nov 2014
1912 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:03 pm to
BeefDawg, have you considered decaf?
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

And you don’t like me calling you out on it. Well too bad


I don’t give two cents what you call me. I’m just trying to point out, perhaps unsuccessfully, that you aren’t “owning” me like you think you are. I’m an emotionally well adjusted adult. Your unstable Beef brain, on the other hand, can’t handle anything that doesn’t comport with your worldview without hurling ad hominems and at least 10 expletives per post. Trolling someone like you never gets old. #KAG
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

I don’t give two cents what you call me.
If you don’t care then why are you fricking complaining?

I’m not trying to “own” anyone. Those are your words, not mine. This is clearly your deflection.

I’m one of the few people in this place that brings supported facts to back up what I say. That isn’t “owning” someone. That’s just giving the rest of the good folks here correct and truthful information that just happens to prove your lies wrong.

Like claiming the curve is going back up. I showed a chart from the CDC proving this false.

But did you comment after that about it? Hell no. Because you and the other doomers are fricking lying arse cowards, so you just downvoted me.

And I’ll bet dollars to doughnuts your dishonest arse is still on other forums or telling people somewhere that the COVID curve is skyrocketing, “cases” are through the roof, and OMB is at fault!

And funny how you don’t realize that if your goddamn requirement to wear masks worked that you’d be contradicting yourself.

“MASKS WORK!”

“CASES ARE SKYROCKETING!”

You frickin moron. You’re such a dishonest virtue signaling hack, and you damn well know it.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7903 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I’m one of the few people in this place that brings supported facts to back up what I say.


Hold on now. I asked for proof of padding the pockets of those scientists spearheading studies, and you did not provide any. You talked about people who appeared on CNN and give contradictory information, and that you were able to "connect the dots" and if I can't do that I'm an idiot. That isn't evidence. And I wasn't asking about the opinions of the talking heads on CNN or any other news station, for that matter.

There are studies coming out of places like Johns Hopkins, CDC, Mayo, etc from scientists who devote their entire lives to studying infectious diseases. Where is the proof that they're giving fake results?

If you're going to make bold assertions that scientists are being paid off to falsify results, the onus is on you to provide supporting information. A prosecutor won't get anybody convicted by saying "hey guys, that dude totally did it. Connect the dots!" There are certain standards for gathering and presenting evidence, none of which include watching CNN and "connecting the dots" while you eat cheese toast in your barcalounger.

You also mentioned that there was never a strain on PPE, which isn't correct either. The only reason we haven't completely run out is because people are reusing equipment (like the N-95s), which you aren't supposed to do. I've personally been scrambling to find suppliers, and we still don't have enough for every staff member. Aside from my own anecdotal experience, there are a lot of articles out there that show PPE has been in short supply depending on location. Here is one from WSJ LINK

Look, I don't think CV is going to kill us all. But science doesn't support the theory that it's just the flu either. The truth is somewhere in between.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

FinleyStreet

Here ya go.

quote:

A DOCUMENT NO LONGER AVAILABLE FROM THE U.S. FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION REGARDING “EMERGENCY USE AUTHORIZATION” OF POTENTIAL COVID-19 TREATMENTS APPEARS TO SUGGEST THAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE SATISFIES THE CRITERIA FOR THE CLASSIFICATION, BUT WOULD STAND IN THE WAY OF LUCRATIVE OTHER DRUGS, AND A VACCINE.


The document is strangely deleted from the FDA site now, but this article has a full 8-page copy attached.

quote:

The possible treatment, shunned by the mainstream media and Big Tech, has far-ranging champions from Yale epidemiologists to frontline doctors to President Trump. Despite this support, corroborated by scientific studies, the medical establishment under the auspices of Dr. Anthony Fauci have refused to grant hydroxychloroquine “Emergency Use Authorization” (EUA).

July 29th documents from a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) presentation reveal, however, that the “qualifying criteria” for extending EUA to the drug appear to have been met: it “may be effective” and that “no adequate, approved, and available alternative” exists.

The document makes clear that Emergency Use Authorization cannot be used for more than one drug or therapeutic, and the establishment is potentially therefore saving the EUA pre-emptively for vaccines and remdesivir – patently high-value Big Pharma drugs – instead of hydroxychloroquine.

Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, who authored a study on the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine, outlined the medical establishment’s campaign against the drug on the War Room: Pandemic show.

He emphasized that Dr. Fauci has “lied to the American people” by insisting that authorizing a treatment for COVID-19 rests on “controlled trials to get anything through the FDA.”

“That is not true. That has never been the historical precedent and almost no other medication has ever had to meet those standards,” Dr. Zelenko continued.

He also noted that due to the sheer existence of hydroxychloroquine – a potential treatment – “available drugs like Remdesevir and the vaccine by [the FDA’s] own internal rules cannot get EUA.”

Such a classification would “facilitate the availability and use” of the drug and represents a fast-track alternative to authorizing potential life-saving treatments during public health emergencies such as the ongoing pandemic.

The eight-page presentation entitled “Considerations for FDA Licensure vs. Emergency Use Authorization of COVID-19 Vaccines” posits two additional prerequisites for EUA: “declaration by HHS Secretary of emergency situation leading to serious or life-threatening disease or condition,” which occurred in January, and that the “known and potential benefits of the product outweigh the known and potential risks of the product.”





And what you’re asking for is retarded. Of course there isn’t readily available evidence all over the ether of Big Pharma paying doctors to stymie HCQ. That would defeat the purpose, no?

But can you rationally explain why a drug that’s been used for 50 years to treat malaria and other SARS-related diseases, and has been deemed safe for those ailments, and is being tested and confirmed effective at treating COVID-19 by numerous studies, epidemiologists, and doctors, is being cock-blocked by government entities, told to us by the media it’s dangerous, and censored off social media for merely mentioning it as a possible treatment??

Seriously, who gains from this, and who loses if it becomes THE go to treatment and it turns out overwhelmingly effective in squashing this whole pandemic??

How is it that some “scientists” say it’s bad and some say it’s damn near a cure?

And why is the media and Dems continually saying, “Listen to the scientists”, but ONLY the ones that are on the other side of the fence to Trump’s narrative?

What does Trump have to gain if HCQ is effective?

What does the media and Dems lose if it’s not effective? Should be nothing. So why are they so opposed to a drug that millions of people have safely taken for 50 years?

Why did they push a story about a couple ingesting fish tank cleaner as rationale for HCQ being dangerous? And why do they continue to act like it’s dangerous?



It’s fricking asinine that I can present something like this and still you want to hold the media up as the beacon of credibility simply because there isn’t a smoking gun showing who’s the truth and who’s lying.

But even that wouldn’t matter if it existed. Project Veritas posts video proof of media corruption, bias, lying, and political agenda all the time and you clowns just ignore it. Video proof doesn’t even fix you peoples fricked up beliefs.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

You also mentioned that there was never a strain on PPE, which isn't correct either. The only reason we haven't completely run out is because people are reusing equipment (like the N-95s), which you aren't supposed to do. I've personally been scrambling to find suppliers, and we still don't have enough for every staff member. Aside from my own anecdotal experience, there are a lot of articles out there that show PPE has been in short supply depending on location. Here is one from WSJ LINK

I said this...

quote:

We never ran out of PPE,


You can’t even be honest about what I actually said, so frick you.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:05 pm to
By the way, here are the stats on lobbying expenditure in the US.

LINK

Big Pharma is by far the biggest. Almost double the next closest.

quote:

Leading lobbying industries in the U.S. 2019
Published by Erin Duffin, Mar 4, 2020
In 2019, the pharmaceuticals and health products industry in the United States spent the most on lobbying efforts, totaling to about 295.17 million U.S. dollars. In the same year, the automotive industry spent about 68.92 million U.S. dollars on lobbying.
What is lobbying?
Put quite simply, lobbying is when a company or organization tries to influence government leaders to create legislation that will benefit the lobbyist in some way. Lobbying can also be done in business in an attempt to create beneficial circumstances for the lobbyist. Oftentimes, lawyers and former government officials are hired as lobbyists as they know how government works and already have connections within the government. Lobbying has become controversial in the United States, because large corporations tend to lobby in favor of their business rather than the needs of the public.


You want a money-trail? There was nearly $300 million spent on trying to influence government policy for Pharma last year alone.

And you really think there’s no shinannigans going on?? That’s it’s all legit? That this campaign to squash a 50 year old effective drug that has been taken safely by millions is simply organic concern and caution for... whom?

SMH
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