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NY Covid-19 Deaths

Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Cobb Dawg
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:57 pm
Between NY and NJ they claim over 18,000 deaths. CA has less than 1,000. I know the former states are more densely populated, but I’m a little skeptical on their true numbers. Funding propaganda?
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Funding propaganda?


Wrong board for this bait.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:58 pm to
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Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Between NY and NJ they claim over 18,000 deaths.


NYC revised their numbers up by about 2,000. The reason? Deaths they don't know the cause for but assume it is Covid-19.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:17 pm to
Wrong board, you fricking retard.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:52 pm to
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Between NY and NJ they claim over 18,000 deaths. CA has less than 1,000. I know the former states are more densely populated


Contrary to popular belief, metro Los Angeles is actually more densely populated than metro New York. New York City proper (just the boroughs) is more dense, but there's far more land and people in metro NY than just the 5 boroughs.

Density may be part of the problem, but its not the entire problem.

For instance.....

Orange County, CA has a population density of 3,975 people per square mile.
Los Angeles County, CA has a population density of 2,474 people per square mile.

Both of these two metro LA counties are more densely populated than Westchester, Rockland, and Suffolk Counties in NY.... all three of these counties are part of metro NYC. Westchester and Rockland are just north of the Bronx, and Suffolk takes up the majority of Long Island, running East all the way out to the Hamptons.

Here is the current fatality rate of all of these aforementioned counties in terms of Deaths per 1 Million people:

19.8- Orange, CA
45.3- Los Angeles, CA
478.1- Suffolk, NY
718.5- Rockland, NY
762.8- Westchester, NY

The two most densely populated counties above are the two California counties that have death rates 10x plus lower than the less dense counties in metro New York.

The difference in death rates completely defies the density theory. The difference is probably for these reasons:

1. Weather- It does appear warmer places are fairing better than colder places

2. Management- De Blasio should be forced to resign based on how poorly he handled this. He was actively encouraging people to get out and go to restaurants when it was obvious that cases were inside the city of NY and starting to grow.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 1:57 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:54 pm to
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2. Management- De Blasio should be forced to resign based on how poorly he handled this. He was actively encouraging people to get out and go to restaurants when it was obvious that cases were inside the city of NY and starting to grow.


The whole Chinese New Year celebration and active encouragement from the city government for the entire city to come out (out of wokeness) was just an absolute stunner of stupidity.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:55 pm to
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NYC revised their numbers up by about 2,000. The reason? Deaths they don't know the cause for but assume it is Covid-19.


This doesn't mean these deaths were just invented out of thin air to make the numbers look worse.... some may have been from COVID-19 and some may not have been. But its highly likely the vast majority were.

I read earlier this week that prior to this pandemic, the city of New York police force typically handled around 25 at-home deaths in a normal day. For the past few weeks, they've been dealing with between 200 and 250 at-home deaths every single day. Obviously when the numbers explode by 10-fold, there's a high probability that its due to the virus. These deaths were mostly people who died at home and never went to go get help. So yes, they were never tested, but its completely logical to assume most of these died due to the virus.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:57 pm to
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This doesn't mean these deaths were just invented out of thin air to make the numbers look worse.... some may have been from COVID-19 and some may not have been. But its highly likely the vast majority were.

I read earlier this week that prior to this pandemic, the city of New York police force typically handled around 25 at-home deaths in a normal day. For the past few weeks, they've been dealing with between 200 and 250 at-home deaths every single day. Obviously when the numbers explode by 10-fold, there's a high probability that its due to the virus. These deaths were mostly people who died at home and never went to go get help. So yes, they were never tested, but its completely logical to assume most of these died due to the virus.


My brother is in Brooklyn - the idea that NYC faring poorly is some sort of extensive coverup to........get more funding or something? is at best ignorant and at worst sickening.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:02 pm to
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Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:03 pm to
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My brother is in Brooklyn - the idea that NYC faring poorly is some sort of extensive coverup to........get more funding or something? is at best ignorant and at worst sickening.



I agree. The theory would also require that not just one, but three states and countless counties would all have to be involved in inflating their numbers.

New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut rank #1, #2, and #3 in terms of deaths per capita. Either three states are involved in a massive scandal of infalting numbers, or this thing is real and the entire metro area of New York is truly going through a health crisis not seen for one hundred years.
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm to
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NYC faring poorly is some sort of extensive coverup


Nobody has ever said that.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105107 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:07 pm to
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Nobody has ever said that.


The first post in this thread literally said

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Funding propaganda?
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:53 pm to
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Wrong board, you fricking retard.


I don't know. Wouldn't the retard be the one who read the OP and then opened it up and responded that it was the wrong board. And, as old as you are, used the word "retard"?
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26194 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 5:37 pm to
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Funding propaganda?




I suppose those could be crisis actors getting loaded into those freezer trucks.

Nah, I'm not that stupid. If you think New York is lying about dead people... maybe you need to step back from watching OAN for a few days.

If I had to make a guess, and it is a guess, I would assume it is a combination of factors.

1. The virus thrives in colder temperatures, as viruses often do. We could see the numbers drop in the coming months only to come roaring back when fall weather sets in. Consider that California has a much larger population than Washington state but has about 900 confirmed dead to 600 or so for Washington. It is, this may come as a shock, colder and wetter in Washington than it is in most of California.

2. California took this as serious as a heart attack. They went with social distancing and threw resources at it right away.

3. New York, conversely, was much slower to react to the problem and it spread rapidly. That is a pattern we have seen repeated across the globe.

The UK and Italy, as examples, were both notoriously slow to put in place measures to contain the virus and they've paid the price. Consider that the US has about 5 times the population of the UK but Britain has 14.5K dead compared to the 36.5K we have. That is twice as many as the numbers would suggest. Boris Johnson is riding a wave of popularity at the moment but I suspect when this is all over quite a few Britons are going to realize he copulated with the canine on this.

4. Luck of the draw. The cases in California, as an example, seem to be pretty spread out across the state. In New York, NJ, and Conn. they appear to be concentrated in a few areas. Which means that the local medical facilities were overwhelmed. When that happens deaths shoot through the roof.

It is why everyone is preaching social distancing to flatten the curve and prevent hospitals from being over run.

Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 7:55 pm to
People in NY die every day. Lots. But there are no future federal funds for people who die of natural causes. You think in the present because that’s all your brain can handle. There’s no way that NY has that many more deaths than the rest of the US. There’s no way that China has so few. There both socialist. And there’s a reason for both to lie. For NY it will be federal disaster dollars. The city is in infrastructure shambles and has been for years. You need to use both sides of your brain. If you practice it’ll come naturally.
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:04 pm to
NY socialist? Dude, NYC is the fricking epicenter of capitalism, save maybe Hong Kong.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:17 pm to
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NY socialist? Dude, NYC is the fricking epicenter of capitalism, save maybe Hong Kong.


Apparently you know little about NYC. You should travel and read some.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38336 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 2:19 am to
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People in NY die every day. Lots.


Dont be an idiot...

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the city of New York police force typically handled around 25 at-home deaths in a normal day. For the past few weeks, they've been dealing with between 200 and 250 at-home deaths every single day.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19928 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:13 am to
My little county, Blount county tn, official numbers:
Population est 129,900
Total confirmed dead 3
Total confirmed cases 46
Total confirmed recovered 41
Total confirmed active cases 2
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