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re: PSA regarding this months-long Golding debacle

Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Also, you should understand that this is a possibility in my framework of viewing things. I am in no way, shape, or form indicating that it happens frequently, and am going well out of my way to prevent you from restating my views incorrectly, despite you making post after posting attempting to do just that.


Thank you. I find your perspectives hard to pin down at times and false others so I appreciate you clarifying as often as you do.

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I literally teach the English language and would appreciate it if you pay as close attention to the words I choose as I do when I choose them.


This seems disingenuous, but I will try.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:33 pm to
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You have me mistaken. I'm not concerned with any of that. I was just gathering information on if you used factual information to support your reasoning for doing things or your arguments for the most. I do find you to be belligerent at time and I think that any person who studies persuasion or debate would tell you that does way more to hurt you then help but you see that differently. Everybody uses different strategies.


Yes, I believe you have me mistaken as well. I think you are looking for a simple way to paint me with a very wide brush, and I'm telling you that sometimes I argue/discuss a thing for the purposes of arguing a thing. And in those cases, proper debate tactics would be the better plan for any poster. Look no further than at my recent discussion of the "mush rush" with Bear88. We were both respectful and had a nice time. We're going to continue soon about the 3-3 stack. It was nice and fun.

And other times I insult the absolute piss out of someones opinion because that's what I'm trying to accomplish in its entirety. Maximum fricking insult. I just always happen to support my insults with evidence.

An non-football example would be on facebook, a girl I graduated HS with posted a meme with a pic depicting a soldier from another country pointing guns at the back of people's heads on the side of the road, those people on their knees. It looked eastern block or Russian or something, maybe a pic from Communist USSR decades ago. Not sure as I didn't recognize the uniform. As part of this picture, it said, "This is Socialism. Is this what you want in the US? #SupportTrump"

Well, I smoked her arse. That picture is not depicting Socialism, it's depicting Totalitarianism. Which is a wildly different thing. Socialism by definition is "society deciding as a group to structure society so as to benefit the group." And her posting that meme has a direct negative effect on society, and I wanted to embarrass her arse. I wanted people to see just how stupid of a take that is, and for her embarrassment to be so bad that everyone who sees it might think twice about posting harmful shite like that again. frick her, and frick her horrible opinion. Did I enjoy it? Yep. Am i really going to change all of society? Nope, but I still believe it should be said.

And on this board, the equivalent gets posted but for football. Horrible takes that are detrimental to the fanbase and the University of Alabama. And I want to smoke that shite to get it out of here. I also enjoy it.

Am I an intense person who should be told to chill out sometimes? Sure. That's why I have no problem with you now. But I'm still gonna do what I want to do. This is not a justification, but an explanation as you and others seem to be asking for one.

Sometimes my point is nothing more than "frick what your opinion is maximally", and I'm very clear about doing it and the ramifications. You are trying to explain debate tactics to me as if I am not crystal clear about exactly what I'm doing.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:35 pm to
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You can see the confusion, right?


Yes, that's clearly why I explained it further.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:38 pm to
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This seems disingenuous, but I will try.


Are you serious? I am the most verbose person here, and I meticulously edit my posts for grammatical accuracy. I obviously care deeply about accurate communication enough to paint pages with words in order to do so. And in that context, you are calling my asking you to pay attention to my words as "disingenuous"? Are you serious, man? You are just making shite up now.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11767 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Yes, I believe you have me mistaken as well.


No, I don't think anything I said is conflicting to what you posted. But I am glad you made a point to clear things up, it gives everyone more perspective as to the logic behind your postings.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11767 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:42 pm to
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Are you serious? I am the most verbose person here, and I meticulously edit my posts for grammatical accuracy. I obviously care deeply about accurate communication enough to paint pages with words in order to do so. And in that context, you are calling my asking you to pay attention to my words as "disingenuous"? Are you serious, man?


Yes.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:42 pm to
And to everyone, as much as I enjoy the topic of me, even I'm tired of discussing me now.

If I get out of line in the future, feel free to call me on it. Otherwise, I'm going to move on from discussing me. It's become tiresome to say the least.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:43 pm to
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Yes.


Thank you for admitting you are making shite up now.

EDIT: You waited too late to remove my last sentence from your quote. I saw it.

However, I do appreciate you engaging me properly in this thread overall. Enjoy your weekend.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 2:46 pm
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
11767 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:47 pm to
Yep my mistake, but I wasn't making anything up so I took it out and you got the right context after the edit, I felt you were being disingenuous.

That was a great discussion there prevatt. You laid somethings bare to the board that were truly interesting. I look forward to feeling I actually had an earnest conversation with you in the future.

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However, I do appreciate you engaging me properly in this thread overall.


Not once did I engage you without being proper and I hope you grow to do the same with all you meet.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 2:53 pm to
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Not once did I engage you without being proper and I hope you grow to do the same with all you meet.


Well said.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11767 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 3:11 pm to
Fin.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
1147 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 5:00 am to
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Prevatt, I want to be clear as well, I think you make this board an absolutely miserable place to visit and that should be a ban-able offense but we can't always get what we want.

Golding is an idiot.


I printed this out and wiped my arse with it.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14579 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 9:45 am to
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No, I believe more than 50% of Americans to be fundamentally incapable of intelligent thought and critical analysis. I think it's one of the most ignorant cultures on earth at the present moment, and is a country that celebrates the pursuit of ignorance.


Ignorance is a lack of info. We all share that trait to one degree or another. It's just a matter of what subject we're on.

Given that we have nothing in life that we didn't get from someone else, it's not smart to paint people with such a broad brush.

There are a lot of different life topics we could be discussing with this same group here and get absolutely "schooled" on.
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 9:51 am to
I’m new here so my input may be for nothing but I have to admit that I don’t think I’ve ever read that kind of silliness on a football board
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22951 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Prevatt, I want to be clear as well, I think you make this board an absolutely miserable place to visit and that should be a ban-able offense but we can't always get what we want.

Golding is an idiot.


Another person who can't talk about the topic and instead has to attack those who disagree with him. Guy with 2 posts now claiming people should be banned.

That's what this thread and others like it have turned into - attack people who don't have the same opinion, then try to get the people banned if they respond.

Just gonna RA these posts from now on.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22951 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 4:34 pm to
Another post discussing posters rather than the topic. Just 1 big long personal attack.

PS: I didn't call him a dick sucker, I asked him why he was running his mouth about me.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 4:39 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 4:38 pm to
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Another post discussing posters rather than the topic.

Posters are the topic of this thread.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 4:45 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22951 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 4:43 pm to
quote:


Posters are the topic of this thread.


Surely you don't mean to suggest the Alabama forum now has a topic dedicated to bitching about other members.

Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 4:47 pm to
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Surely you don't mean to suggest the Alabama forum now has a topic dedicated to bitching about other members.

I did not suggest that. Did you not read this thread's initial post, or did you just fail to comprehend it? If you feel the initial post is against board rules, perhaps you should RA it.
This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 4:57 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22951 posts
Posted on 3/8/20 at 4:58 pm to
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I did not suggest that. Did you not read this thread's initial post or did you just fail to comprehend it? If you believe the initial post violates board rules, perhaps you should RA it.


The OP was talking about people who would bring up Golding in threads not about Golding, which would then derail the threads.

How you get from that, to posts personally attacking people and calling for them to be banned is the same topic, I surely do not know.

This post was edited on 3/8/20 at 4:58 pm
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