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Why throw the ball with a first and goal from the 2 yard line?

Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:04 pm
Watching the game against auburn tonight since I missed it Saturday and this interception return just happened

Why throw the ball?

Waddle was a one man wrecking crew
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75880 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:07 pm to
Because crazy shite happens on the Plains.

It's science.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24266 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:07 pm to
My only thought is when the field is shortened everyone stacks the box. Had we actually not just let the DE through unblocked and MAC isn’t getting hit as soon as he rolls it may have been successful. Najee and Waddle were absolutely going off. Thank God Waddle is back next year.
Posted by TidalTim
Member since Jul 2017
867 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:08 pm to
Give me Najee 4 times from the 2. Even if you don't score they will have to drive the ball 98 yards.
Posted by Legba007
Franklin, Tn
Member since Jul 2013
2111 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:13 pm to
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Because crazy shite happens on the Plains. It's science.



more like black magic
Posted by Bigfoot67
Member since Mar 2013
2007 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:17 pm to
I would have liked to have seen a QB sneak on first down to at least get it inside the 1, plus you have less of a chance of getting caught in the backfield for a loss.

Follow that with Najee over the top on 2nd down.

If that doesnt work, I'd probably sneak it again or Najee over the top again.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:18 pm to
Sark coached to win Saturday.

I got no problem with it.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1581 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:23 pm to
It’s some kind of bizarre portal to a arse-backwards universe where nothing is fricking logical.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22779 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:27 pm to
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Sark coached to win Saturday.

I got no problem with it.


That's not coaching to win. It wasn't coaching to win when Nuss did the same stupid shite when the game was on the line in 2012 against A&M either.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:29 pm to
That's a good question. Our Falcons fans warned us about Sark doing that stuff. I would have lined Slade Bolden up at QB or just let Najee jump.

I'm an idiot on the couch though
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:30 pm to
I got nothing
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
2787 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:39 pm to
We've had problems on obvious short yardage rushing situations the past couple of years. And honestly we've run that type of play a lot in that situation in the past. Heck the Upchurch TD in the Iron Bowl our 1st title season was a similar play.
Posted by RJYH
Member since Aug 2010
6923 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:47 pm to
If Jones uses the field and throws to the sideline it's a touchdown.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
2224 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:52 pm to
Nussmoron threw 3 straight times from the 2 (I think it was the 2), when we had been running pretty well the whole day.

That pass play on 1st and goal from the 2 I’ve got no problem with and had the D Lineman not have been allowed to come through the line unblocked and almost take the snap, we’re not even having this conversation.

It wasn’t a bad call. Block the defender and we score 6 there instead of giving up 6.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 9:55 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 9:57 pm to
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It wasn't coaching to win when Nuss did the same stupid shite when the game was on the line in 2012 against A&M either.


Nuss ran a dumbass flood rollout to the short side of the field on 4th down after running a similarly idiot slow developing rollout the other way earlier in the sequence.

Sark ran a play action pass to the flat that was there on 1st down. The ball has to be on the free side of the back, not the trailing defender side. And on top of that it literally took the ball sitting on Najee's back for it to be picked.

Got zero problem with the call. Had tons of problems with what Nuss did.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62867 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:04 pm to
it was a perfect play call. Just poor/unfortunate execution.
Recall that this was about the fourth consecuctive play from inside the 10 yard line (AU had 2 PI penalties) Teh couple of other run attempts were jammed at the LOS.
This play, if nothing else, was set up on 1st down to open up the defense.
The biggest mistake made in the play was Kaho (normally a LB) was lined up at FB and totally ignored the block on the charging DE for AU. Had he even just rubbed him, Mac gets around him and cake walks into the endzone. Or he could have thrown it to Najee who had his man beat (thus how the luck of his getting that INT) by two or three steps. Worst case was an incomplete pass. But when Kaho ignored the block, Mac should have just eaten the ball. But to his defense, even in that split second he could see Najee was wide open.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:15 pm to
Dammit, you all want to get too cute in the red zone just like Sark. Line up under center in the I and run right behind Cornbread and Wills with Kaho leading the way for Najee. If we can’t get 2 yards in 3 plays doing that, then our arse is beat anyway.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62867 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:23 pm to
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Kaho leading the way

Kaho was the one who missed the block that doomed the play.

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. If we can’t get 2 yards in 3 plays doing that, then our arse is beat anyway.

The two runs prior to that netted 0 yards. A one yard run from the 9 to the 8 and a one yard loss from the 3 back to the 4.
Again, if nothing else, this play was designed to loosen up and spread out the defense, so we could run, using the same formation and personnel, up the middle.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:26 pm to
I understand that it was a good playcall, and I bet it would have been a td with Tua or an experienced QB. I just don't believe we should have put Mac in that situation. We have a bull runningback that can jump, I'd try that before I took any unnecessary risks.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11458 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:35 pm to
We ran a play that gave Auburn opportunities to make something happen and boy, did they. The worst they could have done on a run up the middle was a loss of 1 or no gain, barring an uncharacteristic fumble. Kaho didn’t make that block probably because he didn’t know he was supposed to. I’m sure they don’t spend a ton of time going over every possible scenario for him in a heavy package when he’s playing out of his natural position. He was carrying out the assignment he knew.
That was asking a lot of Mac who played a really solid game but there Sark put him in harms way and asked him to make a split second read then the perfect throw. Sark didn’t know the blitz was coming but that’s the risk you take and it blew up in our face.

I think it was a good play call run with less than ideal personnel and was too risky under the circumstances. Yeah, a healthy Tua probably makes that throw right in Najees hands but 90% of QBs can’t do that even under normal circumstances much less with a blitz in your face. Sark needed to remember who was at QB and it wasn’t our GOAT.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:36 pm
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