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re: How many teams would be 10-1 at this point...

Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:18 am to
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Alabama would be undefeated with UGA's schedule.



This. at a UGA fan making this thread.
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 11:19 am
Posted by atlanta917
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:18 am to
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And I'm guessing we'll never allow ourselves to be put in a position where that happens again.

That looks to be the case. Alabama’s ooc scheduling ramps up after this year.
Posted by CFFreak
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:23 am to
Each matchup is different my man. I am certain we beat Georgia and end your season.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:26 am to
How many would have had the game control that Bama had over those cupcakes, even playing with an injured QB and a backup?

Just look at the like opponents between Bama and UGa. Bama played both of the like opponents on the road and UGA got them at home. Bama played them better.

You can only play your schedule at some point.

Bama should have jumped UGA this week imo based on that alone.

That said, win and you are in. If oregon beats Utah (or Utah lose next week), a 2 loss OU or Baylor win the Big 12 (potentially an argument against a 1 loss Baylor... but not a great one IMO), LSU wins the SEC, and Bama beats Auburn... Bama is in the CFP. No amount of "who have they beat" will change that.

I think it's a long shot. But, there is a big drop between the top 3 and the rest at this point. And, Bama is every bit as good as 4-8. They need help to get there, but don't fool yourself that they are less deserving of a 4th seed.
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:27 am to
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I'd say Bama's past schedules look better than UGA's.
Notable OOC Games

I added some info about those "good" opponents:

2008 Neutral - #9 Clemson 7-6 year end NR
2009 Neutral - #7 Virginia Tech 10-3 year end #10 – Bama actually played a name team in its prime
2010 Home - #18 Penn State 7-6 year end NR
2011 Away- #23 @ Penn State 9-4 year end NR
2012 Neutral - #8 Michigan 8-5 year end #24
2013 Neutral - NR West Virgina year end NR
2014 Neutral - NR VaTech year end NR
2015 Neutral - #20 Wisconsin 10-3 year end #21 –Surprise! Paul Chryst did better than expected his first year
2016 Neutral - #20 USC 10-3 year end #3 –Surprise! Clay Helton did better than expected his first full year
2017 Neutral - #3 Florida State 7-6 year end NR
2018 Neutral– NR Louisville 2-10 year end NR
2019 Neutral – NR Duke 4-7 so far, likely NR at year end

Conclusion: Lots of programs with name recognition but nowhere near their historical prime, except for 2009 VaTech, and the two with first year head coaches who did better than expected 2015-Wisconsin and 2016-USC

In those 12 years listed, 8 were Not Rated at year end. That’s hardly a murderers row of OOC opponents.

UGA played most of their opponents when they were actually good and ranked at the end of the year.
Posted by JCdawg
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:32 am to
Hypothetical posts are meaningless IMO, but Alabama has no excuse for not scheduling at least 2 power 5 OOC games every season from here forward. I don't want to hear anymore of that "no one will play us" bullshite.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:35 am to
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Hypothetical posts are meaningless IMO, but Alabama has no excuse for not scheduling at least 2 power 5 OOC games every season from here forward. I don't want to hear anymore of that "no one will play us" bullshite.


Bro, your 2nd power five game this year is against a team that would get blasted by several non power 5 teams. UGA got beat at home by a team that we annihilated. The frick are you talking about?
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 11:36 am
Posted by MartyMoose09
Florence, AL
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:35 am to
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UGA played most of their opponents when they were actually good and ranked at the end of the year.


So post it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:37 am to
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In those 12 years listed, 8 were Not Rated at year end. That’s hardly a murderers row of OOC opponents.


It's very normal, actually, as scheduling 10 years in advance means you hit some and you don't hit others.

Example

2008 LSU - no power 5 games
2009 LSU - @ UR Washington 5-7 year end UR
2010 LSU - N #18 North Carolina 8-5 year end UR
2011 LSU - N #3 Oregon 12-2 year end #4, @ #16 West Virginia 10-3 year end #17
2012 LSU - UR Washington 7-6 year end UR
2013 LSU - N #20 TCU 4-8 year end UR
2014 LSU - N #14 Wicsonsin 11-3 year end #13
2015 LSU - @ UR Syracuse 4-8 year end UR
2016 LSU - N UR Wisconsin 11-3 year end #9
2017 LSU - N UR BYU 4-9 year end UR, UR Syracuse 4-8 year end UR
2018 LSU - N #8 Miami 7-6 year end UR
2019 LSU - @ #9 Texas 6-5 UR


2011 was awesome. Other than that, thank gosh for Wisconsin.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:39 am to
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It's very normal, actually, as scheduling 10 years in advance means you hit some and you don't hit others.

Example

2008 LSU - no power 5 games
2009 LSU - @ UR Washington 5-7 year end UR
2010 LSU - N #18 North Carolina 8-5 year end UR
2011 LSU - N #3 Oregon 12-2 year end #4, @ #16 West Virginia 10-3 year end #17
2012 LSU - UR Washington 7-6 year end UR
2013 LSU - N #20 TCU 4-8 year end UR
2014 LSU - N #14 Wicsonsin 11-3 year end #13
2015 LSU - @ UR Syracuse 4-8 year end UR
2016 LSU - N UR Wisconsin 11-3 year end #9
2017 LSU - N UR BYU 4-9 year end UR, UR Syracuse 4-8 year end UR
2018 LSU - N #8 Miami 7-6 year end UR
2019 LSU - @ #9 Texas 6-5 UR


2011 was awesome. Other than that, thank gosh for Wisconsin.


so many hypocritical twats on this board.
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
825 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:39 am to
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UGA played most of their opponents when they were actually good and ranked at the end of the year.

quote:

So post it.

I know it's true.

I think the time would be better spent for some Bama fan to research it, and have their eyes opened as they do so.

Prove me wrong, I know you can't.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:41 am to
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Bama has struggled with every ranked opponent they've played this year.



I don't think you're going to get any argument from Bama fans that our schedule sucks this year. To act like it's that way every year is absurd though. The fact that we're in the SEC West means that Bama unlike UGA has to beat at least 3 or 4 teams with a pulse every year (LSU, Auburn, A&M, and usually at least one or both of Ole Miss and MSU...no offense Arky). During most of UGA's strongest SEC championship run seasons from the early 2010s till now y'all play ONE (usually Florida) or maybe two or very rarely three SEC East division opponents with a pulse. The SEC East has been hot garbage for the vast majority of this decade so Georgia fans don't have much room to criticize Bama's schedule aside from this year.

As for this season, Georgia has clearly played a much stronger overall schedule than Bama up to this point but it isn't as if they've done any better against each team's common opponents so far this year (winner in bold) which is the only real way to compare the two teams so far this year...

vs South Carolina:

Bama 47 @ USCe 23
USCe 26 @ UGA 23

vs Texas A&M

Bama 47 @ Texas A&M 28
Texas A&M 13 @ UGA 19

vs Tennessee

Tennessee 13 @ Bama 35
UGA 43 @ Tennessee 14

P.S. Too bad you guys sh## the bed at home against South Carolina in the middle of the season. If it wasn't for that loss UGA likely would have been able to lose a competitive game to LSU in Atlanta and still make the 4 team playoff.
Posted by MartyMoose09
Florence, AL
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:41 am to
quote:

I know it's true.

I think the time would be better spent for some Bama fan to research it, and have their eyes opened as they do so.

Prove me wrong, I know you can't.


You obviously have it, so let's see big boy.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:42 am to
Georgia lost 20-17 to cock, not 26-23.
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
825 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:45 am to
quote:

It's very normal, actually, as scheduling 10 years in advance means you hit some and you don't hit others.

That's very true for almost every team except Bama.

Because none of those Bama neutral site games were scheduled 10 years in advance.

Most were usually only 2 or 3 years in advnce, when it's obvious that Lamar Jackson would be gone when they played Louisville, or USC would still be on NCAA sanctions, or many of the other things Bama knew that let them schedule big name schools not at their prime.
Posted by clemsonfanntn
Member since Dec 2012
256 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:45 am to
Why all of a sudden is everyone crying about schedules? These games are scheduled years in advance. Clemson or Bama can't help it if the teams in their conference that they have to play aren't any good. Back when A&M hired jimbo. all I heard was they'll be competing for championships, Clemson beat them and it was "just another cupcake " Georgia needed the refs help to beat them and it was "what a good win" I'm so tired of hearing about schedules that I wish they would do away with conferences and play who ever you want to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:48 am to
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Why all of a sudden is everyone crying about schedules?


there are a TON of bitch boys on here
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/25/19 at 11:50 am to
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Most were usually only 2 or 3 years in advnce, when it's obvious that Lamar Jackson would be gone when they played Louisville


We scheduled the Louisville game in July 2015. Lamar Jackson was a freshman in the 2015 season, which means he literally wasn't even on campus at Louisville when we signed the contract. Your hypothesis appears to be fatally flawed.

quote:

USC would still be on NCAA sanctions


USC finished ranked #3 in the country


Anything else?
This post was edited on 11/25/19 at 11:52 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20473 posts
Posted on 11/26/19 at 1:34 am to
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quote:

SOS rankings according to Jeff Sagarin:

#26 Georgia
#27 Oklahoma
#31 Baylor
#40 LSU
#46 Ohio State
#51 Utah
#62 Clemson
#63 Alabama


Hmmm...

Can anyone explain Oklahoma and Baylor to me?
I'm bumping this, because I've yet to get an answer.

I've checked schedules, and Baylor's OOC is Stephen F Austin, Rice and UTSA.
Oklahoma's is Houston, South Dakota and UCLA (that sounds more impressive, but both Houston and UCLA are 4-7). Outside of that, they just have conference games... and outside of each other, none of those Big 12 games seem major.

In contrast, LSU's OOC is Northwestern State, Texas (6-5, and shared by the 2 Big 12 teams), Ga Southern (6-5 in Sun Belt), and Utah State (6-5 in Mountain West). And then conference- including Alabama (which has to trump either Baylor/Oklahoma, or at the very least equal that), Florida and Auburn (which both should exceed anyone else on their schedules besides each other).
So while LSU might have creampuffs too, I'd argue that the top end of the schedule is significantly tougher than anyone Baylor or Oklahoma have faced.
Posted by Capstone2017
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 2:08 am to
Two of the top 10 programs all time? You can't be this dumb.
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