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Satisfied with the win and glad all the recruits got to witness it BUT....

Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13918 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:34 am
EDIT* Looks like I’m not the only one who feels this way LINK

We have got to stop playing not to lose.

I love Kirby and I really felt like he learned his lesson after the two Bama losses. We all know what went down so there’s no need to go into detail.

In the first half we looked like shite last night. Notre Dame came to play and we just couldn’t get anything going until the end of the half.

In the second half we made it obvious who the better team was by how we began moving the ball on them. They began to get tired and it looked like we were about to pull away in the 4th. But we started that play not to lose bullshite when we kicked a field goal instead of getting half a yard with the goal of a touchdown.

I sat there and typed out exactly what was going to happen after that field goal. We kick the field goal, ND scores, we play conservative and give the ball back, then ND gets another opportunity to win.

I should not be able to tell anyone exactly what is going to happen in a football game. It’s just too predictable at this point.

At least we won and maybe Kirby FINALLY has seen that we have to keep our foot on the gas especially vs a top 10 team. Richt would have lost so at least we are on another level in that regard.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by RunLindsayRun
LaGrange | Athens
Member since Sep 2012
2781 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:32 am to
I disagree. It took us the first half to settle in, but after that I really was impressed with Coley. I feel like when we went up 13-10, he kept his foot on the gas and drew up some nice passing plays to Cager. Chaney would have gone play action incomplete, repeat, draw, punt. Once we threw the ball downfield, Swift got rolling.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:40 am to
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It’s just too predictable at this point.


That's what our offense is and it's our biggest weakness. Conservative and pedestrian. If they don't trust Fromm to throw the ball further than 10 yards then what's the point? He's a third year starter who has played in a ton of big games. Turn him loose and let him throw the damn ball all four quarters. Dinks and dunks around the line of scrimmage don't really work against a good team with 7-8 players within five yards of the LOS.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 10:41 am
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13918 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I disagree. It took us the first half to settle in, but after that I really was impressed with Coley. I feel like when we went up 13-10, he kept his foot on the gas and drew up some nice passing plays to Cager. Chaney would have gone play action incomplete, repeat, draw, punt. Once we threw the ball downfield, Swift got rolling.


So what was kicking a field goal and playing ultra conservative in our next drive all about?

You can’t tell me that wasn’t playing not to lose.
This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
Member since Sep 2012
26844 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:50 am to
Makes me sick, but I agree HT. I'm good with being a run first team but when the defense is selling out to stop that run to start the game you have to let Jake take over. Especially with a freak like Pickens. Go to the no huddle and let Jake hit those intermediate routes and take a shot or two. That alone will help soften up the defense for the running game.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3860 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:52 am to
For some reason UGA fans, and apparently our coaches, have convinced themselves that if your offensive line is big enough you can run straight into a crowd of defenders and win. It may even work against some teams, but it won't win championships.

If Coley can't figure out a way to open things up, this will be a replay of last season. Maybe worse because we'll face attacking defenses every week and I'm not sure we have the receivers to efficiently execute a quick passing game. In two weeks, Jeremy Pruitt will run a completely opposite defense from that passive zone he showed in the first half against Florida yesterday. And if Tennessee can muster any crowd noise, our offense may well struggle up there too.

This post was edited on 9/22/19 at 11:01 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88643 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Richt would have lost so at least we are on another level in that regard.


It's been 4 years, move on with your life.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2089 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:30 am to
quote:

BUT


you need to go to a meeting. everything after the 'but' is bullshite.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2089 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:34 am to
quote:

I really was impressed with Coley


Sir (or Madam) we will have to disagree here because it seems Coley was trying way too hard last night to be innovative and clever. Chaney would have slapped 'em upside the mouth and made them submit.
Posted by RunLindsayRun
LaGrange | Athens
Member since Sep 2012
2781 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:38 am to
quote:

So what was kicking a field goal and playing ultra conservative in our next drive all about?



Well looking back on it, had we gone for it and not gotten it, they probably would have forced OT with how they drove down the field their last two drives. And did the Falcons not teach you anything? Had we tried to throw on that last drive we could have left them with 3 minutes and a timeout. We won so obviously it wasn’t too conservative.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2089 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:42 am to
quote:

or some reason UGA fans, and apparently our coaches, have convinced themselves that if your offensive line is big enough you can run straight into a crowd of defenders and win. It may even work against some teams, but it won't win championships.

If Coley can't figure out a way to open things up, this will be a replay of last season. Maybe worse because we'll face attacking defenses every week and I'm not sure we have the receivers to efficiently execute a quick passing game. In two weeks, Jeremy Pruitt will run a completely opposite defense from that passive zone he showed in the first half against Florida yesterday. And if Tennessee can muster any crowd noise, our offense may well struggle up there too.


Man i been going to Sanfordl since the 70s. My gut instinct is to RUN THE DAMN BALL. RUN IT AGAIN!! JESUS! SOMEB0DY RUN THE DAMN TOSS SWEEP.

And last night we probably could have made a national audience point by doing just that.

But you are right, a team with championship aspirations is ultimately going to have to do more than run a toss sweep to perfection so i'm going to give Coley/Swift the benefit of the doubt. (this week)
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16832 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:44 am to
quote:

So what was kicking a field goal and playing ultra conservative in our next drive all about?


You make it to where they have to score two touchdowns in under 4 minutes to beat you. That almost is a lock statistically. Also, it’s not like we’d been getting a ton of push up front.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
21998 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:46 am to
Yep no doubt we lose to bama, LSU, Ohio St, etc last night. Timely mistakes and conservative calling. OL is shaping up to be pretty overrated. ND didn’t have to stack the box to stop the run.

Glad we got the W though.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13918 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:48 am to
quote:

everything after the 'but' is bull shite.


Says the man with no evidence
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2089 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:52 am to
well we were up by 10 at that point and they still needed two touchdowns to beat us so a FG does nothing. Not to mention you have 'the best offensive line in college football' you have a veteran quarterback who has just laid it on the line to almost get the first down, and you have a crowd and night to remember in sanford stadium.

you gotta go for it at that point. this kinda rinky dink thinking is going to keep CKS from winning the big on.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10717 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 11:56 am to
100 percent agree. The change in the game was palpable the second they hit the milk/conservative button.

There is game management and then there is playing not to lose. We were driving down the field and had them on their heels. We went milk and the entire atmosphere changed..you could see it in the players.

Historically, when we switch to milk mode, we pay the price.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5402 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

That's what our offense is and it's our biggest weakness. Conservative and pedestrian. If they don't trust Fromm to throw the ball further than 10 yards then what's the point? He's a third year starter who has played in a ton of big games. Turn him loose and let him throw the damn ball all four quarters. Dinks and dunks around the line of scrimmage don't really work against a good team with 7-8 players within five yards of the LOS.


I agree. We can't build our offense around 5 yard passes to Swift and hoping he will make someone miss. Notre Dame did a good job of neutralizing these short passes. They weren't gonna let Swift beat them. It means to me, something else is open.

I watched Florida/Tennessee a good bit. There is a good contrast against the way Mullens called their game and the way Coley called ours. Mullens had Trask pushing the ball downfield with 15-20 yard passes when Tennessee stacked the box. Mullens wasn't scared to call these plays, yet we are. I don't get it.



Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44779 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

I watched Florida/Tennessee a good bit. There is a good contrast against the way Mullens called their game and the way Coley called ours. Mullens had Trask pushing the ball downfield with 15-20 yard passes when Tennessee stacked the box. Mullens wasn't scared to call these plays, yet we are. I don't get it.


Comparing Tennessee to a top 10 team is an interesting thing to do.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27808 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

ND didn’t have to stack the box to stop the run.


They didn't? That's kind of exactly what they did.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:27 pm to
Another good point of that article (aside from Kirby needs to loosen up) is that he needs to let the best players play. I get that the instinct is to trust juniors and seniors more but they make mistakes too (see: Simmons fumble).

Why did we basically go with only Swift and Herrien? Wouldn't a few carries to Zeus and Cook been good for a change of pace? Maybe one or both does something special in the game...
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