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Should a signee be granted immediate eligibilty
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:21 am
If he signs with a school then his position coach or HC leaves the school before he is on campus? Yes I know a kid should commit to a school and not a coach, but the fact is its the relationship with coaches that gets kids to sign.
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Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:22 am to BreezyDawg
Your thread title does not match up with your discussion
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:24 am to BreezyDawg
Pushed submit too early but yes if a HC leaves then the player should be able to transfer if they have yet to enroll
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:27 am to BreezyDawg
No. LOIs and scholarships aren't supposed to be backed out of - too bad it still happens. They need to figure this out soon before it just turns into free agency.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:39 am to BreezyDawg
No, the contract is with the school. That would create 100% free agency. Even the Pros do not have that. Should the Pros get rid of the draft?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 8:42 am to LC412000
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Pushed submit too early but yes if a HC leaves then the player should be able to transfer if they have yet to enroll
Yes, but if he follows the coach to the new school he has to wait a year.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:08 am to BreezyDawg
I think it should be allowed only if the coach leaves right after signing day.
Take that shite that Mark richt pulled. He’s got all these kids signing with him in the early signing period just to retire and name Diaz the head coach. So not only do the kids that signed just to play with Richt get screwed, the kids that signed with Temple to play with Diaz get screwed too
Take that shite that Mark richt pulled. He’s got all these kids signing with him in the early signing period just to retire and name Diaz the head coach. So not only do the kids that signed just to play with Richt get screwed, the kids that signed with Temple to play with Diaz get screwed too
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:22 am to BreezyDawg
No, but he should be able to wait an entire year without taking away from his 4/5 years of eligibility, if he does not enroll anywhere until next cycle
Posted on 1/25/19 at 9:49 am to BreezyDawg
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If he signs with a school then his position coach or HC leaves the school before he is on campus? Yes I know a kid should commit to a school and not a coach, but the fact is its the relationship with coaches that gets kids to sign.
I would consider the LOI binding...the school bases its recruiting of other players based on what they already have in the fold. If you sign an LOI in December...the school may shift position focus away from your position when they are filling the rest of their allotted slots.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:10 am to BreezyDawg
For those not following, 2 days after Bru McCoy enrolled at USC, OC Kliff Kingsbury took the Arizona Cardinals job. Now McCoy is requesting out of his LOI to transfer to t.u.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:17 am to BreezyDawg
should be granted immediate eligibility to whichever school is paying more.... including sibling jobs, "church donations", charger payments, etc.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 10:39 am to Bulldogblitz
People here seem to view these kids as commodities.
These are kids. 17-18 year olds. You know what it's called when you get someone naive to risk something that will benefit you and pull the wool over their eyes in the end? It's called a scam.
I'm not about scamming children. Universities will be fine. These coaches will be fine. The kids, however, may ruin the best chance they'll ever have to make it big because they trusted the wrong coach. It's unfair.
Of course they should be able to transfer. They should have at least as much freedom as the men that asked for their trust then jumped ship.
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Not for nothing, the NCAA doesn't want talk of above board player payments to really start again. Because of that they're trying to treat kids as fairly as possible. Most of these transfers will go through.
These are kids. 17-18 year olds. You know what it's called when you get someone naive to risk something that will benefit you and pull the wool over their eyes in the end? It's called a scam.
I'm not about scamming children. Universities will be fine. These coaches will be fine. The kids, however, may ruin the best chance they'll ever have to make it big because they trusted the wrong coach. It's unfair.
Of course they should be able to transfer. They should have at least as much freedom as the men that asked for their trust then jumped ship.
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Not for nothing, the NCAA doesn't want talk of above board player payments to really start again. Because of that they're trying to treat kids as fairly as possible. Most of these transfers will go through.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:19 am to chillmonster
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These are kids. 17-18 year olds
Many people forget this, how would they feel if it was their kid going off to college and their HC mislead.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:27 am to BreezyDawg
Kids need to learn consequences for actions. I've been teaching mine that message all my life. No, a coordinator leaving should not matter. HC, maybe. But a coordinator?
Not at any level in the NCAA has that been allowed before, in any sport. Dangerous precedent
Not at any level in the NCAA has that been allowed before, in any sport. Dangerous precedent
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:35 am to allin2010
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No, the contract is with the school. That would create 100% free agency. Even the Pros do not have that. Should the Pros get rid of the draft?
Or, more to the point, are the contracts of all players voided because a coach is fired?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:38 am to BamaGradinTn
Are not all scholarships reviewed annually?
Posted on 1/25/19 at 11:39 am to chillmonster
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Of course they should be able to transfer. They should have at least as much freedom as the men that asked for their trust then jumped ship.
So, using your logic, every professional athlete should have the ability to void their contract and become a free agent if their coach resigns or is fired.
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I'm not about scamming children. Universities will be fine. These coaches will be fine. The kids, however, may ruin the best chance they'll ever have to make it big because they trusted the wrong coach. It's unfair.
The kids still get a college education provided for them, and the opportunity to play college football. Treating them like victims isn't appropriate.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:11 pm to chillmonster
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These are kids.
until they shoot a guy working at a convenience store for the $52.43 in cash.... then they are adults.... but until then, kids... poor defenseless, unable to commit, kids.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:24 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Well they need to start having the school sign something too. A school isn't as affected by a player leaving as a player is affected by a good coach leaving. It can ruin a players career if a coach leaves and the school changes the type of players they want and they don't fit that type.
No. LOIs and scholarships aren't supposed to be backed out of - too bad it still happens.
Posted on 1/25/19 at 3:16 pm to BreezyDawg
I normally would say no... but some idiots want earlier and earlier signing periods.
Hell... the silly season (coaching swaps) will pick up even more after the super bowl. We aren't done with the coaching moves.
So yes. Let the kids leave freely.
If you don't like the kids leaving adyer signing their LOI, then move the signing period back to let the dust settle after the super bowl.
Hell... the silly season (coaching swaps) will pick up even more after the super bowl. We aren't done with the coaching moves.
So yes. Let the kids leave freely.
If you don't like the kids leaving adyer signing their LOI, then move the signing period back to let the dust settle after the super bowl.
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