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Stats how Alabama is blessed with targeting calls; even in the games they don't play...
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:44 pm
Thanks to the Arky fan who posted this on tRant.
1. Alabama vs A&M:
Senior DB Donovan Wilson.
7 career INTs. 2nd on team in tackles. 19 career tackles for loss.
Ejected for Targeting with 4:00 left in First quarter.
Referee is Matt Loeffler.
2. Alabama vs Missouri:
SR MLB Terez Hall.
Team Captain. Butkus and Nagurski nominee.
Ejected for Targeting with 9:00 left in Second quarter.
Referee is David Smith
3. Alabama vs Tennessee:
Back Up to Previous Game ... Tennessee vs Auburn:
JR MLB Daniel Bituli.
UT’s leading tackler.
Ejected for Targeting with 3:00 left in the game at the end of a Tennessee blowout win.
Referee is Matt Austin.
Bituli misses first half vs Alabama.
4. Alabama vs LSU:
Back up to previous game ... LSU vs Mississippi State
JR ILB Devin White.
Permanent Team Captain.
Pre-season All-American. Butkus, Bednarik, Nagurski nominee
Ejected for Targeting with 5:00 left in the game in a blowout LSU win.
Referee is John McDaid.
White misses first half vs Alabama.
Four different SEC Referees ejected the best or near best defender for Alabama’s opponent ... for Targeting.
Tired of it yet, SEC?
Kudos to Hog Cracklin...Baw, putting in work!
1. Alabama vs A&M:
Senior DB Donovan Wilson.
7 career INTs. 2nd on team in tackles. 19 career tackles for loss.
Ejected for Targeting with 4:00 left in First quarter.
Referee is Matt Loeffler.
2. Alabama vs Missouri:
SR MLB Terez Hall.
Team Captain. Butkus and Nagurski nominee.
Ejected for Targeting with 9:00 left in Second quarter.
Referee is David Smith
3. Alabama vs Tennessee:
Back Up to Previous Game ... Tennessee vs Auburn:
JR MLB Daniel Bituli.
UT’s leading tackler.
Ejected for Targeting with 3:00 left in the game at the end of a Tennessee blowout win.
Referee is Matt Austin.
Bituli misses first half vs Alabama.
4. Alabama vs LSU:
Back up to previous game ... LSU vs Mississippi State
JR ILB Devin White.
Permanent Team Captain.
Pre-season All-American. Butkus, Bednarik, Nagurski nominee
Ejected for Targeting with 5:00 left in the game in a blowout LSU win.
Referee is John McDaid.
White misses first half vs Alabama.
Four different SEC Referees ejected the best or near best defender for Alabama’s opponent ... for Targeting.
Tired of it yet, SEC?
Kudos to Hog Cracklin...Baw, putting in work!
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:45 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:If so, put up some billboards! That'll show em.
Tired of it yet, SEC?
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:48 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Four different SEC Referees ejected the best or near best defender for Alabama’s opponent ... for Targeting.
I don't know. Maybe those guys should stop...targeting.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:49 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Four different SEC Referees ejected the best or near best defender for Alabama’s opponent ... for Targeting.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Back Up to Previous Game ... Tennessee vs Auburn:
JR MLB Daniel Bituli.
UT’s leading tackler.
Ejected for Targeting with 3:00 left in the game at the end of a Tennessee blowout win.
Sound familiar?
:rotflmao:
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:01 pm to Errerrerrwere
Where do I find these stats? Serious question
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:03 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:Impossible
Referee is David Smith
Entire post invalidated
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
They were all targeting. Trust me.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:08 pm to Errerrerrwere
I'm not sure how may targeting calls there have been this year but last year there were 27 in the SEC.
So, is it unusual that 4 targeting calls would benefit Alabama more than it might benefit other teams? Let's work with some numbers...
To make the math a little simpler, let's say there are 28 targeting calls this year in the SEC. (This is a working assumption. I don't know the actual stats. But 27 was 2nd most out of any conference last year; so, 28 might be high and would make the math conservative here when we start dividing.) Let's assume further that NO MORE calls benefit Alabama for rest of the season (even though we've only played 2/3 of the regular season games so far). If we go with these assumptions, by the end of the season 4 out of 28 targeting calls, or 1 out of 7, would directly benefited Alabama in one game OR the next game. That would leave 24, of 6 out of 7, for the other 13 schools to divvy up. 24 divided by 13 would be a little shy of 2 per school, assuming that these were called somewhat evenly. That said, some schools might have 3 called on opponents while others have 1.
What is striking, though, is how (1) the players called in these Alabama cases are TOP players on their respective teams, and (2) the timing of these calls benefit Alabama (in first quarter of game against Alabama, so players miss 3/4 of the game, of the very end of the prior game, meaning players miss a guaranteed 1/2 of the game).
So, what are the chances that a team benefits from FOUR ejections AND that all four are TOP players AND that the timing is such that the game time missed is MAXIMIZED.
Also, remember that my math was conservative here. Alabama could have 1 more called in their favor (to make it 5) and there might be fewer than 27 this year (let's say 25)...then we could get numbers like 5/25 (1/5) or 4/24 (1/6) benefiting Alabama.
So...do we have smoke here?
Or did I just have a bunch of fun playing the crazy, obsessed LSU fan?
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[In 2017] The SEC confirmed 27 instances of its players being flagged for targeting but declined to provide details of five calls not reported on play-by-play sheets or by the media. In all, the AP could not account for seven targeting penalties out of the 188 reported by the NCAA. source
So, is it unusual that 4 targeting calls would benefit Alabama more than it might benefit other teams? Let's work with some numbers...
To make the math a little simpler, let's say there are 28 targeting calls this year in the SEC. (This is a working assumption. I don't know the actual stats. But 27 was 2nd most out of any conference last year; so, 28 might be high and would make the math conservative here when we start dividing.) Let's assume further that NO MORE calls benefit Alabama for rest of the season (even though we've only played 2/3 of the regular season games so far). If we go with these assumptions, by the end of the season 4 out of 28 targeting calls, or 1 out of 7, would directly benefited Alabama in one game OR the next game. That would leave 24, of 6 out of 7, for the other 13 schools to divvy up. 24 divided by 13 would be a little shy of 2 per school, assuming that these were called somewhat evenly. That said, some schools might have 3 called on opponents while others have 1.
What is striking, though, is how (1) the players called in these Alabama cases are TOP players on their respective teams, and (2) the timing of these calls benefit Alabama (in first quarter of game against Alabama, so players miss 3/4 of the game, of the very end of the prior game, meaning players miss a guaranteed 1/2 of the game).
So, what are the chances that a team benefits from FOUR ejections AND that all four are TOP players AND that the timing is such that the game time missed is MAXIMIZED.
Also, remember that my math was conservative here. Alabama could have 1 more called in their favor (to make it 5) and there might be fewer than 27 this year (let's say 25)...then we could get numbers like 5/25 (1/5) or 4/24 (1/6) benefiting Alabama.
So...do we have smoke here?
Or did I just have a bunch of fun playing the crazy, obsessed LSU fan?
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:14 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Alabama vs A&M:
Senior DB Donovan Wilson.
7 career INTs. 2nd on team in tackles. 19 career tackles for loss.
Ejected for Targeting with 4:00 left in First quarter.
Was that DB worth 22 points for A&M? B/c that's what they needed just to tie the game.
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Alabama vs Missouri:
SR MLB Terez Hall.
Team Captain. Butkus and Nagurski nominee.
Ejected for Targeting with 9:00 left in Second quarter
That kid worth 29 points for Mizzou?
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Alabama vs Tennessee:
Back Up to Previous Game ... Tennessee vs Auburn:
JR MLB Daniel Bituli.
UT’s leading tackler.
That MLB worth 37 points for UT?
Get real man.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:19 pm to Errerrerrwere
Um, your post is missing a couple of very key pieces of information. To wit:
1) How do these numbers for Bama compare to other schools across the conference? I remember when “Schools playing Bama get called for holding all the time and Bama never does!” was the battle cry around here, until someone ran the actual numbers and proved that the opposite was actually true. So forgive me if I don’t just blindly accept that these numbers for Bama are out of whack.
2) Perhaps even more germane to the question at hand, did the players in question actually commit a legitimate targeting foul during the plays for which they were penalized? Because if they did, then, it doesn’t matter if 100 players were disqualified for a half against Bama this year. The rules are the rules.
Without those two pieces of information, your post is just useless whining, as is every single Errerrerrwere post in the history of this board.
Edited to correct grammatical error.
1) How do these numbers for Bama compare to other schools across the conference? I remember when “Schools playing Bama get called for holding all the time and Bama never does!” was the battle cry around here, until someone ran the actual numbers and proved that the opposite was actually true. So forgive me if I don’t just blindly accept that these numbers for Bama are out of whack.
2) Perhaps even more germane to the question at hand, did the players in question actually commit a legitimate targeting foul during the plays for which they were penalized? Because if they did, then, it doesn’t matter if 100 players were disqualified for a half against Bama this year. The rules are the rules.
Without those two pieces of information, your post is just useless whining, as is every single Errerrerrwere post in the history of this board.
Edited to correct grammatical error.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:20 pm to Errerrerrwere
None of the Bama trash want to even discuss the reality of the OP!
Muh conspiracy theories
Muh that player wasn't good enough to begin with
Muh you are wrong because I say you are wrong
Let's resort back to the OP
Muh conspiracy theories
Muh that player wasn't good enough to begin with
Muh you are wrong because I say you are wrong
Let's resort back to the OP
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:20 pm to Errerrerrwere
Guys, calm down. OP is just trying to say that since Alabama is fricking good, the refs should just ignore people targeting if they're playing Bama or playing in a game before Bama.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:25 pm to Errerrerrwere
Well show me where they weren’t targeting and Bama got the benefit of the doubt.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:31 pm to Errerrerrwere
Those boys ought be more careful to obey such an important rule -- most of all for player safety, but also to ensure they don't hurt their own team by getting ejected and suspended for part of their next game -- especially if their next game is big one.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:32 pm to Errerrerrwere
Good stuff, but this is a useless place for it. This board is filled with LSU fans and other SEC school fans who also hate LSU. They do not represent their entire fanbase, though. I have aggie friends who are true fans and hate Alabama because of shite like this. They actually care about the well being of their school. You won't find that here though.
Everyone but Alabama fans should look at this as (at the very least) interesting, but they won't here. Keep up the good work, though.
Everyone but Alabama fans should look at this as (at the very least) interesting, but they won't here. Keep up the good work, though.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:43 pm to Errerrerrwere
Record books wont have a single mention of D.White in 50 years. Only that on November 3rd, 2018 L8U lost their 8th game in a row to the eventual Champs of '18, and the GOAT college team Alabama by the largest margin ever in Death Valley.
366 - 9
366 - 9
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:09 pm to Errerrerrwere
This forum has hit rock bottom.
Posted on 10/23/18 at 11:37 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Senior DB Donovan Wilson.
Was also ejected against for the same foul against Northwestern State. I'm sure the REC was in on that too?
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SR MLB Terez Hall
LOL
Incredibly egregious targeting call
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Daniel Bituli.
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Ejected for Targeting with 3:00 left in the game at the end of a Tennessee blowout win
His coach disagrees with you...
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The first-year coach of the Vols instead pointed to the poor technique Bituli used in delivering a helmet-to-helmet hit on Auburn running back Malik Miller with less than two minutes left in the game and the Tigers in desperation mode down two scores.
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"The targeting rule is here to protect our game, and not only is it to protect the players that get hit, but it's also something to protect the guys who deliver the hits," Pruitt said during his Monday press conference. "I don't think in any way was Daniel trying to hurt the guy, but his technique was he had his eyes down, and as he approached the ballcarrier, the guy kind of slumped down and they did hit head to head. Coaching point for him and the rest of our team, and it'll help protect him as you always need to keep your eyes up when you're tackling.
All that research - destroyed with Google and 45 seconds of free time.
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