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Alabama is ruining college football
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:18 pm
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:19 pm to ForrestGump
I guess when you know your team doesn't stand a chance you don't bother to show up.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:23 pm to ForrestGump
Shitty thread title is going to stifle conversation.
I do think there's something wrong when people 1) would rather watch "on a cinema-quality screen with drink in hand than stepping out to view the real thing a few feet away" (referencing new state-of-the-art stadiums; 2) cannot afford the cost to attend a game at a stadium.
How lazy and pampered are we that we don't find enjoyment - no matter the age - in being outside on a nice fall afternoon with friends, yelling cheers and watching a good football game? And would instead lay on a couch in ultra-comfort with the a/c on us and a cold drink in hand?
And the economics are getting ridiculous. It's thousands of dollars to be a regular season attender (family of 3) to a football game. It's just too expensive for the average middle class family to support when they have other things to save for (retirement, college funds).
I do think there's something wrong when people 1) would rather watch "on a cinema-quality screen with drink in hand than stepping out to view the real thing a few feet away" (referencing new state-of-the-art stadiums; 2) cannot afford the cost to attend a game at a stadium.
How lazy and pampered are we that we don't find enjoyment - no matter the age - in being outside on a nice fall afternoon with friends, yelling cheers and watching a good football game? And would instead lay on a couch in ultra-comfort with the a/c on us and a cold drink in hand?
And the economics are getting ridiculous. It's thousands of dollars to be a regular season attender (family of 3) to a football game. It's just too expensive for the average middle class family to support when they have other things to save for (retirement, college funds).
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:25 pm to StringedInstruments
Stringedinstruments,,,completely agree...and we live 2 mikes from Sanford stadium...we go once or twice a year but it’s expensive.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:27 pm to ForrestGump
Then Alabama is ruining just about everything, then. Screw them for the marked decline in shopping at brick and mortars and sending telegrams.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:33 pm to ForrestGump
Could it be the teams with the largest stadiums sucked ? UF and UT were not worth driving half a day to go see. Throw in FSU, LSU, A&M and Texas and you can see the decline. I wonder what the % of capacity was for teams in the Top 20 showed.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:34 pm to ForrestGump
Costs are out of control.
Couple that with shite schedules then there is your answer.
Couple that with shite schedules then there is your answer.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 2:42 pm to StringedInstruments
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Agree with a lot of what you said, but I would add that it takes an entire day to watch a game on campus now, or an entire weekend to watch a road game depending on where it is. With so many games on TV, there are often times you don't want to miss another game b/c you are driving to or from the game you are attending.
And to your point, the economics has gotten ridiculous. I take my family to watch ONE Falcons game every year in addition to Bama games. This year the tickets to Falcons vs Panthers ran me $1,750 (thank you Arthur Blank for at least lowering concession prices)
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:20 pm to bamasgot13
NEXT year will be worse. NO DEDUCTION for scholarship / ticket priority giving, so the cost of attending just went through the roof.
In the past you got a charitable deduction for giving to Auburn. As an example two scholarship seats cost $6,000, but 80% is tax deductible ($4,800), so the cost is much less.
Also younger fans have so many more options now. We do not need smaller stadiums, but we do need wider seats with chair backs and cup holders. UT is the worse.
In the past you got a charitable deduction for giving to Auburn. As an example two scholarship seats cost $6,000, but 80% is tax deductible ($4,800), so the cost is much less.
Also younger fans have so many more options now. We do not need smaller stadiums, but we do need wider seats with chair backs and cup holders. UT is the worse.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:25 pm to HailToTheChiz
It's is its 120-150 just for tickets for me to take my two boys to the annual sacrifice before the Auburn game. However we need to keep it so I can at least take them to one game a year because I can't afford the sec games unless my entire family makes sacrifices that aren't worth it. For perspective collectively my wife and I make over 100K a year and we don't drive expensive vehicles. We do however take an annual DW trip that we are having to rethink as well because that vacation now runs us 7K for a week. I have four children though.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:32 pm to ForrestGump
Isn't Alabama still riding a consecutive home game sellout streak since 1988, or did I miss one?
The neutral site big game, big money financial model to off set 3 x super-doughy, stale icing cupcakes every year is beneficial to the fans and the school at UA.
Yes, salaries, recruiting, marketing etc. have raised the cost of admission, but it hasn't affected UA attendance. Instead, the lessor home games provide greater opportunity for a broader range of fans who can enjoy a reduced rate or free (when gifted/donated to friends, family, other organizations) exhibition game full of highlights reel plays and a glimpse at the future stars as they rotate in to play. A game they may otherwise not have been able to afford.
Missing out on traveling to see some historic, marquee stadiums sucks to a degree, but the juice is obviously not worth the squeeze. Besides, a home and home addition only further degrades the availability to attend for most as the home game tkt price rises on the aftermarket and the travel fans absorb additional costs.
The only change I'd like to see is the addition of another conference game to provide more opportunities to play cross-division teams. Plenty of cupcakes within the conference to make it worth it.
The neutral site big game, big money financial model to off set 3 x super-doughy, stale icing cupcakes every year is beneficial to the fans and the school at UA.
Yes, salaries, recruiting, marketing etc. have raised the cost of admission, but it hasn't affected UA attendance. Instead, the lessor home games provide greater opportunity for a broader range of fans who can enjoy a reduced rate or free (when gifted/donated to friends, family, other organizations) exhibition game full of highlights reel plays and a glimpse at the future stars as they rotate in to play. A game they may otherwise not have been able to afford.
Missing out on traveling to see some historic, marquee stadiums sucks to a degree, but the juice is obviously not worth the squeeze. Besides, a home and home addition only further degrades the availability to attend for most as the home game tkt price rises on the aftermarket and the travel fans absorb additional costs.
The only change I'd like to see is the addition of another conference game to provide more opportunities to play cross-division teams. Plenty of cupcakes within the conference to make it worth it.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:38 pm to ForrestGump
I think this has a lot to do with anthem protest. Maybe some people don't want to watch and idolize some kid who will be taking a knee in a few years.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:39 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Barn will be 6-6 soon enough again
Could it be the teams with the largest stadiums sucked ? UF and UT were not worth driving half a day to go see. Throw in FSU, LSU, A&M and Texas and you can see the decline. I wonder what the % of capacity was for teams in the Top 20 showed.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 3:46 pm to StringedInstruments
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find enjoyment - no matter the age - in being outside on a nice fall afternoon with friends, yelling cheers and watching a good football game?
This can't be done...at home?
Who knew?
Posted on 2/13/18 at 4:54 pm to ForrestGump
I don't got to Bama games for three reasons:
1. Too expensive, even with faculty/staff tickets. It would cost over $1000 to take my wife and son to 7 games and that's not counting the parking, concessions, etc. And in real terms, the per game cost would be even higher because as a result of numbers 2 & 3 below I'm sure as hell not going to see them play WKU, Mercer, UTC, etc., which means that I'm really paying over $1000 for maybe four real games. That's a bad return on investment any way you slice it.
2. I hate traffic with a passion.
3. Last time I went I felt like I was at a damn rave or something with all the piped in music and flashing lights. If that does something for some people, then great, but count me out. I'd rather not have epilepsy, thank you very much.
1. Too expensive, even with faculty/staff tickets. It would cost over $1000 to take my wife and son to 7 games and that's not counting the parking, concessions, etc. And in real terms, the per game cost would be even higher because as a result of numbers 2 & 3 below I'm sure as hell not going to see them play WKU, Mercer, UTC, etc., which means that I'm really paying over $1000 for maybe four real games. That's a bad return on investment any way you slice it.
2. I hate traffic with a passion.
3. Last time I went I felt like I was at a damn rave or something with all the piped in music and flashing lights. If that does something for some people, then great, but count me out. I'd rather not have epilepsy, thank you very much.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:27 pm to ForrestGump
Excessive commercial breaks when you are sitting in the stands sucks.
At home I can get a snack, A BEER, take a piss with no line, check on the Boston Butt, etc.
Plus I can still get shite done around the house before and after.
Also no DUI fear.
There’s a bunch of reasons.
At home I can get a snack, A BEER, take a piss with no line, check on the Boston Butt, etc.
Plus I can still get shite done around the house before and after.
Also no DUI fear.
There’s a bunch of reasons.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:37 pm to deeprig9
Agree.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:41 pm to ForrestGump
I also think we see the SEC dissolve it’s moratorium on alcohol sales in the next decade as well as a way to entice people back too. From a pure spectator perspective, no reason why they shouldn’t serve beer at games, and then throw in revenue impact as well.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:47 pm to labamafan
if you and your wife make 100k a year and you cant afford to go to a football game then you need to learn how to manage money.
Posted on 2/13/18 at 5:50 pm to Hook Em Horns
You musta missed the part where he said he has four kids.
Oh, and you missed the part where he said they collectively make 100k.
Oh, and you missed the part where he said they collectively make 100k.
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 5:51 pm
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