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So, bad year for a coaching search.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:49 pm
I think we all pretty much want Bielema gone after this year, but it's looking like this will be no year to be needing a coach. Does it give anyone pause to know that Tennessee, Florida, and probably Ole Miss along with us will be looking for a coach?
UCLA supposedly will also, and does anyone know if Oklahoma is happy with Stoops replacement?
Hate to think we'll be standing in line for a good coach like that.
UCLA supposedly will also, and does anyone know if Oklahoma is happy with Stoops replacement?
Hate to think we'll be standing in line for a good coach like that.
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 1:53 pm to troyt37
Tennessee is not a top tier job and neither is Ole Miss
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:00 pm to troyt37
Oklahoma is in the top 10 with one loss... I think they're happy with him
We're a better job than Ole Miss, and while Tennessee is a better job than us, we've made way better hires than them the last two rounds. Their AD doesn't seem well run, so I wouldn't be surprised if we made a better hire than them again.
It does suck to be in the market with Florida though. Can't really compete with them.
That said, it's unlikely we'll ever be the best job open any given year. You can say this year is bad, but Texas, Oklahoma, and LSU were all open last year. Georgia and Miami the year before that. We can't be scared to get rid of someone when it's obvious he's not working out just because there are better jobs than us open.
We're a better job than Ole Miss, and while Tennessee is a better job than us, we've made way better hires than them the last two rounds. Their AD doesn't seem well run, so I wouldn't be surprised if we made a better hire than them again.
It does suck to be in the market with Florida though. Can't really compete with them.
That said, it's unlikely we'll ever be the best job open any given year. You can say this year is bad, but Texas, Oklahoma, and LSU were all open last year. Georgia and Miami the year before that. We can't be scared to get rid of someone when it's obvious he's not working out just because there are better jobs than us open.
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:14 pm to troyt37
One published opinion of a couple of days ago was that Norvell was very high on Florida's list.
If so, there goes that possible option for us.
If so, there goes that possible option for us.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:14 pm to troyt37
Tennessee’s last two coaching hires were the head coach of Louisiana Tech (who had a losing record there) and the head coach at Cincinnati.
Our last two hires were the coach of the Atlanta Falcons and the Wisconsin Badgers coming off of 3 straight Big Ten Championships.
Tell me again why we should be afraid of coach hunting at the same time as they are?
No.
This is “poor lil Arkiesaw” at its finest.
Why does our fan base always lose its fricking mind during a coaching search? Half our fans think we’re Alabama West, and the other half seems to think we’re Northwest Arkansas State competing in FCS and can do do no better than a coordinator or a high school coach.
Our last two hires were the coach of the Atlanta Falcons and the Wisconsin Badgers coming off of 3 straight Big Ten Championships.
Tell me again why we should be afraid of coach hunting at the same time as they are?
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Does it give anyone pause to know that Tennessee, Florida, and probably Ole Miss along with us will be looking for a coach?
No.
This is “poor lil Arkiesaw” at its finest.
Why does our fan base always lose its fricking mind during a coaching search? Half our fans think we’re Alabama West, and the other half seems to think we’re Northwest Arkansas State competing in FCS and can do do no better than a coordinator or a high school coach.
This post was edited on 10/29/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:14 pm to troyt37
Why would it give anyone pause? I would take Enos or Rhodes over Bert if it came down to that.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:18 pm to troyt37
It's going to be more than the ones you mentioned that are open. Kevin Sumlin started the annual late season collapse last night. It will get him fired this time. Gus has to beat Alabama or Georgia to save his job in my opinion and that looks unlikely.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:25 pm to Arkansasrazorback
I don't see Gus getting fired, even with two losses to Bama and Georgia. Now it depends on how those two losses happen scorewise, but I think Auburn's defense and run game is good enough to keep it close. Their fans are mad but I don't see it happening.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:39 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I agree on Ole Miss, not Tennessee.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 2:43 pm to Porcine Human
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That said, it's unlikely we'll ever be the best job open any given year. You can say this year is bad, but Texas, Oklahoma, and LSU were both open last year. Georgia and Miami the year before that. We can't be scared to get rid of someone when it's obvious he's not working out just because there are better jobs than us open.
Can't dispute that. Just wish it wasn't a year for a lot of big programs looking while we are.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:03 pm to troyt37
Every year has big openings, including last two years. There is always going to be competition
Texas
LSU
Oregon
2015:
UGA
Miami
USC
Va Tech
Texas
LSU
Oregon
2015:
UGA
Miami
USC
Va Tech
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Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:09 pm to troyt37
Most of the new hires will fail but sometimes a change must be made.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:43 pm to troyt37
Am I wrong to think some coaches might not want to coach under the burning glare at a school like Tennessee or especially Florida? Isn't job security important? I mean we've given Bert a full 5 years to fail. Fans have been going nuts in Tennessee for years and in Florida since McElwain got there. And lets not even mention what it must be like coaching at LSU...they were stuck with Orgeron because no big-name coach would ever choose to go through what they did to Les Miles.
I think we have an advantage there...
I think we have an advantage there...
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:45 pm to arkiebrian
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Am I wrong to think some coaches might not want to coach under the burning glare at a school like Tennessee or especially Florida? Isn't job security important? I mean we've given Bert a full 5 years to fail. Fans have been going nuts in Tennessee for years and in Florida since McElwain got there. And lets not even mention what it must be like coaching at LSU...they were stuck with Orgeron because no big-name coach would ever choose to go through what they did to Les Miles.
I don't think you're wrong at all. We can also pay if we really want someone.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:45 pm to troyt37
This does not bode particularly well for us, although I'm not sure exactly how this weekends events have changed things for us just yet.
We knew UT and OM were gonna be our competition for coaching services, not so much UF. There's a pretty good feeling that both UT AND UF already have replacements in mind, especially UF. We're on fairly equal footing with the other two (OM + UT), probably above OM with the NCAA lingering over that program.
I think all this does is put a pause on any considerations on our part in combination with the W this weekend. It's more of a "wait and see" approach now than it was before, but it's not the nail in the coffin for a coaching change like it'll be made out to be.
We knew UT and OM were gonna be our competition for coaching services, not so much UF. There's a pretty good feeling that both UT AND UF already have replacements in mind, especially UF. We're on fairly equal footing with the other two (OM + UT), probably above OM with the NCAA lingering over that program.
I think all this does is put a pause on any considerations on our part in combination with the W this weekend. It's more of a "wait and see" approach now than it was before, but it's not the nail in the coffin for a coaching change like it'll be made out to be.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 3:46 pm to RazorHawg
The Vol board is at "Grudencon 1" and according to a guy in the know (volfan30, I think) Gruden is almost a lock. They've got a sticky on the subject.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:24 pm to troyt37
Arkansas has a decided advantage in that we haven't had a coach fired because of on field performance in less than 5 years since Jack Crowe.
A coach can come here, have time to put in his system, have expectations but not retarded expectations, have all the tools in place as well as a solid salary with money for assistants.
a .500 conference record at Arkansas can buy you a decade. If you win at a .600 rate we'll build you a fricking statue.
A coach can come here, have time to put in his system, have expectations but not retarded expectations, have all the tools in place as well as a solid salary with money for assistants.
a .500 conference record at Arkansas can buy you a decade. If you win at a .600 rate we'll build you a fricking statue.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:29 pm to RazorBroncs
Posted on 10/29/17 at 4:49 pm to Killean
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Arkansas has a decided advantage in that we haven't had a coach fired because of on field performance in less than 5 years since Jack Crowe.
A coach can come here, have time to put in his system, have expectations but not retarded expectations, have all the tools in place as well as a solid salary with money for assistants.
Unless UF has a coach lined up already, I think you'll see them have a VERY hard time landing the calibre coach they want/expect. This situation with Mac has done a TON of damage to them in the court of public opinion, just go watch SEC Now from last night/today and see how shady the talking heads view this situation.
OM is a dumpster fire of NCAA allegations, punishments incoming, ADs in turmoil, and recruits keeping distance. They'll have to settle on a really low tier guy with the most promise they can manage.
Supposedly UT has Gruden locked up (HA) and any other coach will be a disappointment to them at this point.
I just don't know how these events will cloud what's going on in our AD yet, could be nothing or it could cause a tidal wave. I definitely think it'll slow the whole process down and put more weight on the remaining results, where that may have not been AS big of a factor before.
Posted on 10/29/17 at 5:20 pm to ArHog
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I still think Bert gets year 6
Not directed at you specifically, but the belief that this weekend’s events somehow buy Bert another year is little more than fan myopia.
Ole Miss is an absolute train wreck of a program right now, staring down the barrel of the death penalty and led by a lame duck interim coach and a backup QB. In spite of all that, they were blowing us the frick out in the first half and handed that game to us. We won that game simply because we’re a little less of a shitshow than they are right now.
I’ll be cheering the Hogs down the home stretch of course, but let’s not act like this was a turning point in our season. We still have tough games against LSU, State, and a Mizzou team with a potent offense. We’re still very much staring 4-8 in the face.
If we hold on to Bert and keep him simply because other programs are coach hunting, that’d be the epitome of bush league small time.
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