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re: say what you will, but Auburn Basketball did not benefit in any way from this
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:59 am to TailbackU
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:59 am to TailbackU
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I'll be interested to hear what Bruce Pearl has to say and what is unearthed by the investigation, but what I hope happens is that Bruce was blindsided by this as well.
Doubt it very seriously. Even if Pearl didn't know, I think the NCAA is to the point where the head coach bears responsibility even if he didn't know. It's called lack of institutional control.
And given Pearl has already run afoul of the NCAA, this may be curtains for his college coaching career, or at least in the NCAA. Maybe some NAIA or JUCO would hire him. Or it could free him up to go coach in the pros.
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:00 am to MrAUTigers
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He was paying for our best players to leave.
How exactly does that benefit Auburn?
Are you slow?
It doesn't matter what he was paying them to do. He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
Nothing else needs to be added to that paragraph. There is nothing that can possibly be said that can make the implication in that paragraph any less damning.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:02 am to Drebin
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Are you slow?
It doesn't matter what he was paying them to do. He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
Nothing else needs to be added to that paragraph. There is nothing that can possibly be said that can make the implication in that paragraph any less damning.
There will be penalties for this. They won't be hammer dropping like most people are saying. This is not Auburn buying players. It's the exact opposite.
ETA NCAA rules are for getting a competitive advantage. This is not the case in this particular situation.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:04 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:05 am to MrAUTigers
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He was paying for our best players to leave.
How exactly does that benefit Auburn?
The NCAA rule book according to Auburn fans:
1. No prospective or current student athletes may be provided illegal monetary or non-monetary payment, unless it can be argued that the program did not necessarily benefit from those payments.
2. Everything else is cool.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:05 am to TailbackU
SO AUBURN so POOR they couldn't afford to paid chuckie
engough so he had to take matters in his own hands.
engough so he had to take matters in his own hands.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:06 am to MrAUTigers
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There will be penalties for this. They won't be hammer dropping like most people are saying. This is not Auburn buying players. It's the exact opposite.
ETA NCAA rules are for getting a competitive advantage. This is not the case in this particular situation.
You are saying that based on what you've heard/read in the news. You don't know that. There will be an investigation. Nobody at Auburn wants that.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:09 am to Drebin
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There will be an investigation. Nobody at Auburn wants that.
Actually Auburn is paying for an internal investigation. They've hired a law firm out of Birmingham to get to the bottom of what actually happened.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:10 am to TailbackU
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Actually Auburn is paying for an internal investigation. They've hired a law firm out of Birmingham to get to the bottom of what actually happened.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:14 am to JCinBAMA
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SO AUBURN so POOR they couldn't afford to paid chuckie
engough so he had to take matters in his own hands.
He was making 17K a month. You tell me? It boils down to greed.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:14 am to Drebin
quote:This is correct in the sense that there will have to be some sanctions from the ncaa. However, if what was in the indictment is all the NCAA uncovers, the penalties well be minor relative to what a lot on this board are thinking/hoping for.
It doesn't matter what he was paying them to do. He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
Nothing else needs to be added to that paragraph. There is nothing that can possibly be said that can make the implication in that paragraph any less damning.
A rogue coach gave 2 mommas less than $20,000. That will get you a fired assistant coach with a 10 year or greater show cause, probation, and maybe an irrelevant post season ban. Because the actions weren't related to recruiting, I doubt there are any lost scholarships.
If, however, it comes out that anyone else on Auburn's coaching staff or administration knew about this, then things will probably get ugly.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:16 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:15 am to Drebin
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There will be an investigation. Nobody at Auburn wants that.
Auburn endured a 13 month NCAA colonoscopy just a few years ago. How did that turn out?
ETA This is an ATPB all over again.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:19 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:25 am to MrAUTigers
No Purifoy, no Wiley.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:28 am to TFH
quote:I havent kept up on my Tiger news but it was just one guy right? I've always assumed Lack of Institutional Control would require several concurrent violations.
Lack of institutional control. Prepare to stfu. Haha
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:28 am to BamalaAnderson
Agreed.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:29 am to TFH
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Lack of institutional control. Prepare to stfu.
No
It's like people have never seen an NCAA investigation before. And this is the SEC, so we all have.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:30 am to LouisvilleKat
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I havent kept up on my Tiger news but it was just one guy right? I've always assumed Lack of Institutional Control would require several concurrent violations.
If it stays as one assistant coach working for the benefit of a third party with a vested interest in keeping it from everyone else in the program/AD, it's extremely unlikely that the NCAA will go that route.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:31 am to Drebin
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It doesn't matter what he was paying them to do. He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
Nothing else needs to be added to that paragraph. There is nothing that can possibly be said that can make the implication in that paragraph any less damning.
For the 12th time, this is completely false and any review of any major NCAA investigation would reveal that.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:32 am to MrAUTigers
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Auburn endured a 13 month NCAA colonoscopy just a few years ago. How did that turn out?
Ask Ole Miss about their investigation. When the NCAA wants to find something, they find it. Most of the time it's totally unrelated to why they started investigating. Nobody wants the NCAA sniffing around.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:32 am to BoarEd
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Also, Bruce Pearl is responsible for the behavior of his assistants no matter what. Auburn gonna get torched, baw.
Notice that all these folks arrested are assistants. This plausible deniability shite isn't gonna fly.
One of the biggest problems with Pearl is the fact that, in the eyes of the NCAA, he's already the equivalent of a convicted felon.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:34 am to Pettifogger
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He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
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For the 12th time, this is completely false
1. True of false...was he an employee of Auburn university?
2. True or false...did he provide illegal benefits...i.e., money...to student athletes?
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