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re: say what you will, but Auburn Basketball did not benefit in any way from this
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:35 am to TailbackU
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:35 am to TailbackU
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There will be an investigation. Nobody at Auburn wants that.
Actually Auburn is paying for an internal investigation. They've hired a law firm out of Birmingham to get to the bottom of what actually happened.
AFTER the FBI gets involved!....they'd better get their own started to try to defend themselves. 
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:36 am to BamaGradinTn
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1. True of false...was he an employee of Auburn university?
2. True or false...did he provide illegal benefits...i.e., money...to student athletes?
haha THAT's the part of the quoted material you think I'm contesting?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:37 am to coachcrisp
quote:US attorney already said the schools and head coaches weren't implicated in their investigation, so they don't really have to defend anything from the FBI.
AFTER the FBI gets involved!....they'd better get their own started to try to defend themselves
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:39 am to PearlJam
quote:...but they do from the NCAA!
US attorney already said the schools and head coaches weren't implicated in their investigation, so they don't really have to defend anything from the FBI.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:39 am to Pettifogger
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haha THAT's the part of the quoted material you think I'm contesting?
What in the frick do you think the word "completely" means? Your post:
"It doesn't matter what he was paying them to do. He was an employee of Auburn University, and he was providing illegal benefits to student athletes.
Nothing else needs to be added to that paragraph. There is nothing that can possibly be said that can make the implication in that paragraph any less damning."
For the 12th time, this is completely false and any review of any major NCAA investigation would reveal that.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:40 am to Drebin
The NCAA does not have the powers to gather evidence that the Feds do... the NCAA also doesn't have the ability to leverage jail time.
This whole scam doesn't work unless the coach can recruit pro level players. This guy gets on staff and all of a sudden they land pro level players...
This whole scam doesn't work unless the coach can recruit pro level players. This guy gets on staff and all of a sudden they land pro level players...
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:40 am to coachcrisp
What the NCAA does to Auburn in penalties, if any, is probably not going to be as bad as the practical fallout
-Losing 2 or more good players
-Hindered recruiting
-Program upheaval
-Potential loss of Pearl
-Losing 2 or more good players
-Hindered recruiting
-Program upheaval
-Potential loss of Pearl
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:41 am to BamaGradinTn
You do realize that bama had an asst. coach giving out "loans", correct? That was a coach giving out money. How did that turn out?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:42 am to BamaGradinTn
You're being intentionally obtuse
The guy is claiming the NCAA is strict liability and won't care about intent or knowledge of others in the program. That's what I'm responding to, and it's entirely false and keeps being repeated.
The guy is claiming the NCAA is strict liability and won't care about intent or knowledge of others in the program. That's what I'm responding to, and it's entirely false and keeps being repeated.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:43 am to MrAUTigers
quote:...and Pat Dye was giving Derrick Ramsey money, too...how'd that work out?
You do realize that bama had an asst. coach giving out "loans", correct? That was a coach giving out money. How did that turn out?
The cases are all different, genius.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:45 am to coachcrisp
quote:but you insinuated the FBI being involved made this really bad. You are running in circles.
but they do from the NCAA
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:45 am to Pettifogger
quote:I completely agree.
What the NCAA does to Auburn in penalties, if any, is probably not going to be as bad as the practical fallout
-Losing 2 or more good players
-Hindered recruiting
-Program upheaval
-Potential loss of Pearl
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:47 am to PearlJam
Dude crisp is on his balcony drinking metamucil and enjoying the splendor of a morning in paradise, he doesn't have time to read those indictments
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:47 am to coachcrisp
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The cases are all different
This is what Auburn fans have been saying for two days. Thanks!
Auburn was not getting a competitive advantage from this. The penalties will be less severe because of this.........genius.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:51 am to PearlJam
quote:Carefully think about what I'm about to say:
but you insinuated the FBI being involved made this really bad. You are running in circles.
The FBI can bring cases against individuals for violations of the law, while the NCAA can basically destroy college athletic programs for violations of their rules. Now, which organization can do the most harm to Auburn?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:51 am to MrAUTigers
Seriously, bless your heart.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:54 am to MrAUTigers
quote:So recruits with potential pro futures wouldn't benefit from this ?.....really?
Auburn was not getting a competitive advantage from this. The penalties will be less severe because of this.........genius.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:54 am to Peter Buck
ATPB all over again.
When will you people ever learn?
When will you people ever learn?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:56 am to coachcrisp
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So recruits with potential pro futures wouldn't benefit from this
Auburn wasn't buying recruits. One coach was paid to steer two players to an agent/money manager. There is a difference. If the FEDS had said that Auburn was luring players to Auburn using these incentives, that would be much different.
You are trying to connect dots that aren't there.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 8:56 am to coachcrisp
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So recruits with potential pro futures wouldn't benefit from this
No facts so far indicating that this is a recruiting issue
If you're making some tenuous argument that doing this with these guys benefits Auburn in unrelated recruiting efforts...I don't think that's very compelling
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