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re: Colin Cowherd claims end of SEC dominance

Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:10 pm to
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What coach besides Sabin is elite?


you mean Saban? You fricking rednecks...
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18263 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:12 pm to
I honestly don't give a flip what he says. He's gone on the record as a troll who says stupid things just to get attention. Feel free to enjoy a passage from his book where he explains the practice. Its not like he actually believes the drivel he says on the air.

Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17888 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:12 pm to
Is the league full of NC coaches? Nope

But what other conference has a better lineup, top to bottom, of HCs?


It's all relative
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:20 pm to
Big 10 and ACC
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17888 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:22 pm to
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Big 10 and ACC


Both top heavy in the top 2, imo

Granted, the SEC is top heavy at 1 right now
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:26 pm to
Big 10 has Meyer, Harbaugh, Franklin, Dantonio, Chryst, and Lovie Smith (no success yet in college but has to be included). They also have young, promising guys like Durkin, Fleck, and Brohm. Fitzgerald and Riley are solid too. They have a really good coaching situation.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 4:27 pm
Posted by BAMAneck
Lee county
Member since Aug 2016
1787 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:27 pm to
He does this every year ... From the BAMA dynasty is " boring and over " , to " S.E.C. being overrated ". Now this .....


This is just Colin screaming: somebody please notice me .....
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2009
13381 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:27 pm to
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Colin Cowherd - He's a fig, those are my thoughts

Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83685 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:29 pm to
SEC head coaches ARE pathetic.

The SEC won't be the best damn near every single year anymore.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17888 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

They have a really good coaching situation.


That's one perspective.

You're own coach , who I like, was a highly-acclaimed Big10 wonder-boy just a few short years ago. Harbaugh, Franklin etc haven't accomplished any more than Bert did, unless you count Harbaugh's overinflated national perception
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:35 pm to
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Vegas confirms his claim. Thoughts?


collin cowherd is a straight up jack off idiot. i'd like just 5 minutes with him to explain how a sports book works. it's obvious listening to the guy for the last few years that he thinks when you place a bet with a sports book that it's like playing against the house as it would be in a game of chance like black jack or roulette and that the rules of the game favor the house.

that's why he's always claiming vegas "knows" something.

for those that don't know odds are set to balance the book when you place a bet with a sports book your betting against another bettor not the house the house works for the juice with a book maker that's usually 20 percent. the odds are set to balance the book so you have an equal number of bets on each side of the equation. there are some games that can't be balanced because various emotions surrounding the game in that case a book maker will have to make a layoff bet against his book.

all odds tell you is a consensus of the money that's been placed on either side of the equation they are not some sort of wise guy insider info thing.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32725 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:36 pm to
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Colin Cowherd claims some dumbass outlandish shite to get as many hits as possible.
FIFY
Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
Member since Nov 2015
1278 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:45 pm to
Those coaches have longevity but with one exception what have they actually accomplished over the rest of the nation's coaches as a whole?
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:51 pm to
I hate it but he is right for the time being. When Ed Orgeron is coach for an elite LSU program and Butch Jones is at elite Tennessee then things have gone to shite. Kirby may do well but he is a fricking rookie at a big time college football program. So we have Bert as probably the second best but he coaches at a program that you just can't recruit at a high level. Gus can change how he is viewed with a 10 win season or better but yeah, coaching sucks in the conference right now.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30292 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:58 pm to
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Big 10 has Meyer, Harbaugh, Franklin, Dantonio, Chryst, and Lovie Smith (no success yet in college but has to be included). They also have young, promising guys like Durkin, Fleck, and Brohm. Fitzgerald and Riley are solid too. They have a really good coaching situation.


Big 10 beefed up in coaching pedigree while the SEC slimmed down.

We'll see how everything pans out in the next few years. Bert/Gus/Butch are going into their 5th yr - it may be make or break season for those 3.

Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:00 pm to
Depending on how you look at things this statement could be true - sorta.

I think SEC coaches (and the guys that hire SEC coaches) have all taken a page from Saban's playbook.

Namely recruiting is the most important thing. Most of these coaches seem like recruit first guys at this point - Muschamp (yeah, I'd put him in this category), Smart, Freeze (well you know), Sumlin, Orgeron.

It's not like guys like Saban are ignorant of how to run a defense or something. But these guys are trying to win now with Jimmy and Joes as opposed to clever schemes.

If you want to watch a really crackerjack playcaller check out Montana with Bob Stitt.

Just aren't many guys like the OBC, calling their own plays at this point.

But the thing Cowherd doesn't mention is that it probably is more important for your head guy to be an ace recruiter, and a guy who will promote the brand (like Dabo Swinney). You have to be careful about hiring the right coordinators, but guys like Spurrier that got a rush from calling plays but would rather golf than recruit are dinosaurs.

My two cents. But if you are looking for someone who does things in a fundamentally sound way (like Bill Snyder, although he seems on his last legs) or the guy I mentioned, Bob Stitt.

Not sure if any Auburn fans still think Malzahn is a genius playcaller, but Bob Stitt is heads and shoulders above anyone who does it now in this conference. Have to go back to 1990's Spurrier to find something similar from the SEC.

Mullen seems like a solid coach. But he isn't a great recruiter. Same with Mason at Vandy (incidentally he replaced Franklin, who is one of these new age power recruiting coaches).

Bielema - who knows what's up with him. Not a super recruiter, no real scheming to get around weaknesses or exploit other team's weaknesses.

But they seem to knock off someone ever year. And manage to lose to teams they shouldn't.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
51097 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:03 pm to
Pac-12 guy so I'm not surprised gotta take those shots
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:08 pm to
Bielema is recruiting better than we ever have since they started doing rankings

Enos is also an excellent play caller as well. Bielema for the most part lets his coordinators do the coaching.
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11225 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:10 pm to
I wouldn't call Harbaugh's national perception overinflated. He built Stanford out of nothing and took a team to the Super Bowl. That's a better resume than 95% of coaches.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:11 pm to
Tell him to say it to my face.. that a meeting at Sonic is impending.
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