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re: *Super Dee Duper Official X's and O's discussion of LSU vs Alabama Thread*
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:23 pm to setinways12
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:23 pm to setinways12
That's a textbook block
Hands inside the shoulders and driving a guy with your legs. It's called using leverage
Hands inside the shoulders and driving a guy with your legs. It's called using leverage
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:24 pm to Triple Daves
Fitz is playing in Eddies spot, he is trained as a S and CB, same as TB7 who will be taking Fitz spot in Nickel. Solid lineup.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:25 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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50/50 balls. That's your best bet and Bama's biggest weakness. They cover fine, both of our corners are track guys, they just don't always find the football when they're on an island.
With Jackson out LSU can probably exploit some opportunities
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:26 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Fitz is playing in Eddies spot, he is trained as a S and CB, same as TB7 who will be taking Fitz spot in Nickel. Solid lineup.
No concerns with Fitz. Concerns with Tony.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:26 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Fitz is playing in Eddies spot, he is trained as a S and CB, same as TB7 who will be taking Fitz spot in Nickel. Solid lineup.
...and Hootie comes in during Dime?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:28 pm to 14&Counting
Correct Hootie is your Dime and backup Safety if any of the two go out. TB7 has some experience but not a ton. I watched at the AM game where he blew 1 coverage but the pass was long. He's had two weeks to get it together for the game, hopefully he has.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:30 pm to CrimsonBoz
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CrimsonBoz
Hey Boz - Any news from practices?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:33 pm to CrimsonBoz
LSU will run a lot of one back, 2 TEs with BOTH TEs and a receiver on the same side or 2 receivers and a TE on the same side. This "trips" look forces the safety (in man) to take a deep route and leaves a LB or Nickle one on one. Ole miss forgot to pick up the deep route on the Chark TD and picked up the TE late off of play action a few other times. The beauty of this formation is that it is percent for the weak side handoff , cut back to strong side run play. Lots of success there with Guice against Ole Miss. Sets up play action too on the boot back to the strong side.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:33 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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That's a textbook block
Hands inside the shoulders and driving a guy with your legs. It's called using leverage
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRight.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:34 pm to Triple Daves
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Topics encouraged :
The return of "Neck"
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:36 pm to Lazy But Talented
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The return of "Neck"
Why do they call it Neck?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:37 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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For LSU to shut down Bama's:
They must get off blocks and tackle in space. We're going to throw them ball short more than we are long. We'll attempt 3-4 50/50 balls, the rest is going to be 0-15 yards. If LSU can't get off blocks and have their secondary tackle in space then they'll give up some chunk plays here on RPOs. I've already touched on their blocking ability, the receivers love to block and do it well
LSU excels against quick passes. Our DBs are so quick, that the throws have to be very accurate. If not, they will knock the ball out of your hands. Texas A&M game last year is probably the best example of our D against a quick passing offense. I also worry that the Bama WRs will make a big play out of a short pass, so I think LSU will try to press alot. Either don't let them catch a ball, or if they do make sure they are tackled immediately... The tricky thing is that that scheme opens up the potential for Hurts to have a big run. If he can get past the first level, we will have alot of guys in the second level with their heads turned away from the QB and easy targets to block downfield if they are step for step with the WRs.... In summation, we need to play good press coverage (which I think is doable) and contain Hurts (which I think will be a little harder to do).
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For LSU to get it going against Bama:
50/50 balls. That's your best bet and Bama's biggest weakness. They cover fine, both of our corners are track guys, they just don't always find the football when they're on an island. The short stuff doesn't really work against Alabama, they all tackle well. The play action from under center...you're just not going to have enough time to do that much, our pass rush is that good. LSU needs to establish a run game enough to get a safety in the box, and throw a 50/50 9 route to that guy's side of the field. Bama is susceptible to backs running routes downfield as well, wheel routes particularly. Sneaking out and getting upfield works. Staying in front of our linebackers where they can read and react does not work
I don't think we will try too much quick stuff in the middle of the feild, too much room for error. We have had success with a few different routes against Bama in the past: 1)Deep balls: Less of the 50/50 balls (Malachi is our biggest target and he is a pussy going up for balls) and more of the perfectly timed in stride fade. 2) Quick out routes from the slot... I expect us to run alot of routes to Leonard and Guice out of the backfield (maybe even one right up the middle like we had against Ole Miss in 2014). I expect us to try some stuff to the TE (I literally can't even remember the last time we had a TE catch a ball against Bama. fricking Miles...). And I expect us to try that inside screen that we ran against Bama in 2012 to Spencer Ware, its a great play and we hit it for a big gain everytime we run it but we only run it like once a year.... We need big plays for sure, so expect us to try some of our big play plays.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:38 pm to 14&Counting
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:41 pm to Lazy But Talented
I think LSU's offense is completely over matched and I don't think they drive the field at all. If they score it will be off a short field. I expect Bama's offense to have some limited success. Almost all of the stats favor Bama and I think Bama is about 20 points better than LSU. I am expecting about a 24-3 game. With one td being a NOT. Meaning Hurts and the offense won't do a whole lot, but they probably won't have to.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:41 pm to 14&Counting
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Why do they call it Neck?
The lyrics are supposed to be "Talkin out the side of your neck", but the students (including myself at the time) obviously changed it to STTDB
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:44 pm to GeauxPack81
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The lyrics are supposed to be "Talkin out the side of your neck", but the students (including myself at the time) obviously changed it to STTDB
OK man....just hope you guys don't get a chance to sing it on Saturday.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:44 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:But our fans laughed at me for saying he's a good blocker
Gehrig Deiter has the 2nd highest grade in the country for eligible receivers when it comes to run blocking.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:44 pm to bamasgot13
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LSU o-line vs Bama d-line - advantage Bama
LSU d-line vs Bama o-line - push
LSU RBs vs Bama LBs - push
LSU LBs vs Bama RBs - advantage Bama
LSU WRs vs Bama DBs - push
LSU DBs vs Bama WRs - push
LSU QB vs Bama D - advantage Bama
LSU D vs Bama QB - advantage LSU
Special Teams - Push
Coaching - Bama
Atmosphere - LSU
Bama - 4
LSU - 2
Push - 5
I think it's likely a close game decided at the LOS.
I think this is a very neutral look at the matchups...the only one i may argue is LSU lbs vs Bama Rbs being a push instead of advantage bama.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:46 pm to Triple Daves
Question for the Bammers:
I think we would be retarded to run the ball to the side of Jonathan Allen. I know what he is, and I know what he can do to our O-line. Who is on the other side and why should they scare me? LF gets going very quickly, so the only way to stop him is to push the O-line backwards, like Bama did last year. If we can get 3-4 yards per LF7 touch as opposed to 1-2, that will go a long way.
I think we would be retarded to run the ball to the side of Jonathan Allen. I know what he is, and I know what he can do to our O-line. Who is on the other side and why should they scare me? LF gets going very quickly, so the only way to stop him is to push the O-line backwards, like Bama did last year. If we can get 3-4 yards per LF7 touch as opposed to 1-2, that will go a long way.
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