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re: QBs down to two.

Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:11 am to
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 8:11 am to
Technically your wrong. He was put to #2 during spring after he started the entire season , by a coach that was trying to save his job and looked for a scapegoat. Not the fact they had no skill players, no OL, and no defense. That's fact!

If you don't believe me go look the stats between 15 & 14 for UVA. They are practically identical. Even down to points per game. It's not the qb at this point, it was the coach.

That said , Eason is clearly more gifted, there's not many schools in the country that have a more talented Qb form a skill set. I just want him to be ready to lead. I truly hope he is!
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:26 am to
... Or you can say he lost 1 game and won 11 with 12 TDs and 2 INTs with an embattled 1st year OC, the loss of a Heisman RB, And a HC that was fired before the UF game, yet still managed a 142 QB rating.

Lambert isn't the second coming, but given what he was dealing with, I think we were pretty lucky to have had him.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Technically your wrong.


Ah, bullshite. You're wrong. Your is the possessive form of you. Look it up. He didn't start the entire season, he started 9 games. He lost the starters job in the spring and was second string when he bailed and went to UGA.

Your (see how that works) other points about the UVA coach's decision are entirely subjective. If Lambert had stayed and kept the starting position, it may have in fact been worse. We'll never know since he bailed.

Start the kid. He'll be fine. There is no way Smart starts him if he doesn't think that he is ready and that is the best thing for the program.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 9:59 am to
On the UVA deal... They had a poor defense and no running game. The only way London saves his job is if they outscore people. That's why he put in a slinger instead of a game manager. As it turns out, London for fired, Johns threw 17 ints, and then lost his spot to a grad transfer from ECU who never started at ECU...
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5215 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 11:24 am to
Sorry my phone didn't grammar check it for you.

You are still a moron.

And I'm not still not advocating for GL to start.
But not everything at VA or UGA was his fault the last 2 years. The facts are he was let down by his OL time and time again. And you just don't really understand football if you can't see that.

You're the type of fan that sits in the stands and always screams for the back up, who will never understand the intricate parts of the game.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5215 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 11:25 am to
Sorry my phone didn't grammar check it for you.

You are still a moron.

And I'm not still not advocating for GL to start.
But not everything at VA or UGA was his fault the last 2 years. The facts are he was let down by his OL time and time again. And you just don't really understand football if you can't see that.

You're the type of fan that sits in the stands and always screams for the back up, who will never understand the intricate parts of the game.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6952 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:02 pm to
To make a half-heard defense of Lambert in 2015, he ran the plays sent in by his OC, and played the game plan laid out by his HC and OC. He may well have not executed it well, and he obviously didn't have the QB talent of Murray and many other former Georgia QBs, but he was hampered by the coaching situation. We now see that Richt had his mind on Miami most of last season instead of Georgia.
The decision to fire Richt didn't just pop up in November, and the interest Miami had in Richt probably had been developing for a couple of years. My guess is talks between Miami and Richts agent had been going on for a year or more.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64555 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:30 pm to
So Lambert struggled because he knew Richt was secretly planning a move to Miami.

Got it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64555 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 1:50 pm to
If Lambert starts and is NCAA Record Lambert instead of Bad Lambert, I'll be as happy as a hound dog rolling around on something dead.

I dont think Lambert is horrible, i actually think he is servicable.

Thats why its so exciting to think our true fresh could be even better, by the indications he is getting all reps with 1's.

Anyone not excited by that thinks Kirby is an idiot or is himself an idiot.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31971 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Thats why its so exciting to think our true fresh could be even better, by the indications he is getting all reps with 1's.

He's getting reps with the ones according to a plan announced to all three QBs weeks ago. Has nothing to do with whether he'll start or not. Or whether he's doing better than Lambert.
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Anyone not excited by that thinks Kirby is an idiot or is himself an idiot.

Kirby is executing a practice plan he outlined before camp even began. Yet fanboys are now interpreting this plan as Eason being the starter. This is free comedy, right here.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31971 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:07 pm to
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Start the kid. He'll be fine. There is no way Smart starts him if he doesn't think that he is ready and that is the best thing for the program.

Then,why is it so important to you that Eason, who you've never seen play a single down in college, take the first snap against UNC?

If everyone agrees that the goal is to win games and to do what's best for Eason's development, why do you care so much about when he eventually plays or starts?

I'm honestly trying to understand why this is such a big deal to some people. Thanks in advance.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:20 pm to
Lambert is a known commodity, while the worst kept secret in UGA football is that every snap that Eason takes with the 1s makes him better and better. I still think Lambert starts in the Dome, because it is the smartest play out of the gate. When we get up by 10, it's all-Eason, all the time.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 2:52 pm to
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You are still a moron.


Hello Mr. Doublepost,

It is you that need the phone grammar check. My brain does mine. You can thank my third grade teacher for my understanding of your vs you're. Maybe you should repeat that grade since it didn't take.

quote:

You're the type of fan that sits in the stands and always screams for the back up, who will never understand the intricate parts of the game.


As to this shot, my grammatically ignorant friend, you couldn't be more off base. Am I calling for Douglas to start over Chubb and Michel? No. Lambert vs Eason is a matter of starting a proven average QB vs a true freshman with enormous talent. Screaming for the backup has nothing to do with it. It looks like Smart and Chaney agree. I guess according to you that they don't understand the intricate parts of the game either. I would rather be in their company than yours (see how that works?).

Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6952 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 3:12 pm to
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So Lambert struggled because he knew Richt was secretly planning a move to Miami.



No. I didn't say that. Did you just misinterpret my post, or are you really that stupid? I don't think you just misinterpreted.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
To me this is simple. Lambert has a major flaw...he panics when under pressure. At this point in his career with this many starts, he hasn't been able to correct it. If Eason is better under pressure (to be determined) and can call the plays and make the reads... Then he starts and has all of the upside. If we lose to UNC with Lambert, Kirby will be under heat. If we lose with Eason we are building to the future. And if we win. Then we win.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 3:44 pm to
He panics but doesn't throw pics...
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61508 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 3:59 pm to
He does. It's just that defenders are so shocked at his tendency to throw the ball directly at them, and it often catches them off guard.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12420 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 4:22 pm to
He only threw 2 and had a 146 rating. He is not awesome, but if Eason is not ready, Kirby has a solid option to help ween him Eason playing at D1 college speed and reading complex defenses.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Posted on 8/28/16 at 4:29 pm to
Not to get too deep into conspiracy theories but we know that Chizik had to start installing their game plan against us this past week. Ironically (and/or intentionally) at this same time we start to hear from a very tight-lipped CKS through the media (which has not been allowed much access to practices) that JE is repping with the 1's.

From a defensive coordinator perspective and from someone who is familiar with Chizik and from someone who knows that Chiz has to start installing v. UGA...all of a sudden we now hear info about Eason.

This could be mostly a chess move to at least slightly confuse Chizik or make him gameplan for the POSSIBILITY of playing against a TF QB that he doesn't have any real film on.

I mean, hell we have no idea as fans as evidenced by this thread who will or even SHOULD start. We have only our sometimes strongly held beliefs about who we'd LIKE to see start.

Granted, I'm not and I doubt many of us would claim to be a defensive coordinator on the level of Chizik but if it creates any confusion it can't hurt us.

I know for me personally I would have told you a few weeks ago that I didn't plan on seeing JE starting v. UNC even though it pains me to watch Happyfeet Lamebert. I just didn't see him starting. So I'm confused and maybe, just maybe Chiz might be too. I think he'll at least have to prepare his defense for the POSSIBILITY of a true freshman starter and that will take some focus from their defensive gameplan.

At the end of the day what UNC has to do on D is STOP THE RUN.

CKS playing 3d chess??? Don't ask me.
This post was edited on 8/28/16 at 5:12 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61508 posts
Posted on 8/28/16 at 4:38 pm to
To be completely honest, I'm fine not knowing who starts. I brace myself for Lambert, because we know what we're getting with him. Chubb's return makes #11 look a lot less terrifying, since #27 happy feet are a totally different animal than Lambert's version of them.
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