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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:42 pm
I got curious. Auburn owned Georgia for decades, I think won about 65% of the game over 2 decades. Then lost 8 of 10. And Georgia isn't the only team we've done that with, I knew we'd done it with the other SEC west teams. So I decided to count it up just out of curiosity.
So this is Auburn vs our 6 consistent SEC opponents: Bama, Arkansas, UGA, LSU, MSST and Ole Miss.
1996-2007 with 2.5 years Bowden and 9 years Tubbs
Auburn 44-28 against these teams. Won 61% of the time.
2008-2015. 1 year Tubbs, 4 Chizik, 3 Gus (figuring Bama loss)
Auburn 19-29. Won only 40% of the time.
2008-2015 (excluding 2010 and 2013)
Auburn 8-28. Won a mere 22% of the time.
Against Each Team Over 10 Years (including 2010/2013)
Alabama: Lost 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
Arkansas: Lost 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
Georgia: Lost 8 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
LSU: Lost 7 of 10, prior 10 years split 50/50 with LSU
MSST: Won 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10,
Ole Miss: Won 7 of 10, prior 10 years won 8 of 10.
Clearly, from what you see, Auburn has sucked lately, but Auburn still owns Ole Miss. And that matters.
But other than that, no real commentary. Just curious and wanted to see the math, and share it.
So this is Auburn vs our 6 consistent SEC opponents: Bama, Arkansas, UGA, LSU, MSST and Ole Miss.
1996-2007 with 2.5 years Bowden and 9 years Tubbs
Auburn 44-28 against these teams. Won 61% of the time.
2008-2015. 1 year Tubbs, 4 Chizik, 3 Gus (figuring Bama loss)
Auburn 19-29. Won only 40% of the time.
2008-2015 (excluding 2010 and 2013)
Auburn 8-28. Won a mere 22% of the time.
Against Each Team Over 10 Years (including 2010/2013)
Alabama: Lost 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
Arkansas: Lost 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
Georgia: Lost 8 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10
LSU: Lost 7 of 10, prior 10 years split 50/50 with LSU
MSST: Won 6 of 10, prior 10 years won 6 of 10,
Ole Miss: Won 7 of 10, prior 10 years won 8 of 10.
Clearly, from what you see, Auburn has sucked lately, but Auburn still owns Ole Miss. And that matters.
But other than that, no real commentary. Just curious and wanted to see the math, and share it.
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:43 pm to N97883
BTW, I could totally live with a 22% win record vs SEC opponents IF I could be guaranteed every 3rd year is national championship pure bliss. 
Posted on 11/17/15 at 6:40 am to N97883
People say this all the time, but the more I experience the lows, the less I agree with it. I think I'd much prefer 9-11 wins per year and no title.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:21 am to Aubie Spr96
I miss Tuberville more everyday.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:27 am to Aubie Spr96
seasons like this and 2012 (and 2011 to a lesser extent) are just not fun. We basically only get to have football seasons every 3-4 years. Meh.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 7:48 am to Aubie Spr96
Nah the joy of a national championship overpowers all else. And I'm so glad I can say it from experience lol
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:22 am to Rig
The joy of a championship is amazing. We just have to actually win the championship for it to be worth it.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:25 am to Rig
PM wrote a similar story about the roller coaster that is Auburn Football.
started in Dye's 10th year (1990) after having won 3 SEC championships in a row, after playing Bama in JH in 89 for the first time, the Tigers were 6-0-1 and ranked No. 4 in the nation, Florida drilled us in Spurriors first year. (48-7). Then Eric Ramsey (5-6, 5-5-1)
Bowden - started great, but resigned his last year after going 1-5 (Coward)
Tubs: Tuberville, who never really got over Jetgate, resigned., Scared of Saban
Chiz and now Gus
Conclusion from Article:
Five coaches. Five very different yet similar scenarios. Can Malzahn reverse the slide and write a happy ending to his Auburn story when others couldn’t?
That’s the question that will dominate Auburn football in the weeks and months to come.
started in Dye's 10th year (1990) after having won 3 SEC championships in a row, after playing Bama in JH in 89 for the first time, the Tigers were 6-0-1 and ranked No. 4 in the nation, Florida drilled us in Spurriors first year. (48-7). Then Eric Ramsey (5-6, 5-5-1)
Bowden - started great, but resigned his last year after going 1-5 (Coward)
Tubs: Tuberville, who never really got over Jetgate, resigned., Scared of Saban
Chiz and now Gus
Conclusion from Article:
Five coaches. Five very different yet similar scenarios. Can Malzahn reverse the slide and write a happy ending to his Auburn story when others couldn’t?
That’s the question that will dominate Auburn football in the weeks and months to come.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:35 am to allin2010
I just want us to be competitive every year. 9-10 wins a year with close, hard fought losses. We aren't getting that now.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 8:53 am to allin2010
quote:The most remarkable part: all five of those HCs - every single one of them - had a year in which Auburn received first place votes in the AP polls at the end of the regular season.
Five coaches. Five very different yet similar scenarios.
Dye: 1983
Bowden: 1993
Tubs: 2004
Chiz: 2010
Gustav: 2013
Offhand I can't think of a single program who can make that claim over the past 32 seasons. And as bad as things have been at times, we've finished with losing records only five years during that stretch as well ('92, '98, '99, '08, '12).
I grew tired of Tubs because he seemed to settle into what appeared to me as a smug complacency, and his tendency to blame external factors for almost every defeat. But I'm coming to realize that his career (save for '08 when he appeared to give up) pretty much epitomizes AU's maximum level of gridiron competiveness: good-but-not-great almost every season, with occasional breakouts to the upside.
I could probably learn to live with that again. I just wish we could do it without paying our staff more than anyone else in the history of college football.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:06 pm to allin2010
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Tubs: Tuberville, resigned., Scared of Saban
What???
6 IN A ROW!!!!!!Posted on 11/17/15 at 6:37 pm to Fear The Thumb
Also, we've had at least 5 losses 6 out of 8 years. Worst stretch of 5+ losses since the 1940's- early 50's.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:27 pm to mcallo4358
We've really been one of the worst programs in the SEC with two seasons of pure lighting in a bottle magic with juco QBs. I wouldn't trade 10 and 13 for any other 8 year span other than Bama though.
Posted on 11/18/15 at 9:02 am to ever43
I agree.
If auburn would have been able to hold FSU off I wouldn't even trade with Bama. I'd rather have the kick six and all is glory plus a natty then a 3rd natty.
But those two championship runs did give a taste of the national championship life. I liked it. I even get how Saban's crew struggles in bowl games if it's not a championship game.
If auburn would have been able to hold FSU off I wouldn't even trade with Bama. I'd rather have the kick six and all is glory plus a natty then a 3rd natty.
But those two championship runs did give a taste of the national championship life. I liked it. I even get how Saban's crew struggles in bowl games if it's not a championship game.
Posted on 11/21/15 at 8:52 am to N97883
The last 3-4 yrs the West has been way better than they were when Tubbs was here. He was a total richt clone. Why don't you compare AU coaches when the bear was at UA. Saban gets any player he wants and has no concern of NCAA troubles. We've had the NCAA sniffing on us for 4yrs about something. The comparison is apples and oranges. The fact we've won 2 sec titles with saban at UA is better than all the rest. The pressure of winning I much higher. Gus has to survive until saban retires and we'll own the sec west.
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