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Best recruit Saban missed? Keenan Allen or Clowney?

Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:11 pm
Posted by TommyWiseau
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:11 pm
I say Clowney. Bama would have won another title with him.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:12 pm to
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:13 pm to
I say Allen.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:14 pm to
Clowney was the passrusher Saban never got, Allen would have fell in line with the rest of the quality safeties Bama has had.
Posted by TKLSUMD
Young Harris Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:18 pm to
Fournette
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:20 pm to
Clowney takes games and plays off. Glad he did not come.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34645 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:20 pm to
Jameis Winston.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7129 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:21 pm to
Bosa?

Nkemdiche?
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24804 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Clowney was the passrusher Saban never got


Until this year. This has been Saban's best pass rushing line yet.
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:24 pm to
Do pass rushers ever rack up sacks in that saban defense with the buck position or whatever? Even with Dante fowler a 3rd overall pick that position never really produced eye popping numbers under muschamp
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37747 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:27 pm to
Keenan Allen wasn't a "miss" as much as a denial. He wasn't worth the contingencies placed on his commitment (package deal etc).


What do you mean by "miss" though. Improper evaluation and recruitment has led to more "misses" than straight out being beat for a kid.

Posted by Dirty Whistle
Member since Jul 2011
1169 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:27 pm to
Matt Elam
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
26810 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:29 pm to
quote:


Clowney takes games and plays off. Glad he did not come.


quote:

High School

USA Today Defensive HS Player of the Year (2010)
USA Today High School All-American (2010)
South Carolina's Mr. Football (2010)

College

SEC Freshman of the Year (2011)
First-team Freshman All-America (2011)
Second-team All-SEC (2011)
Hendricks Award Winner (2012)
Unanimous All-American (2012)
SEC Defensive Player of the Year (2012)
2× First-team All-SEC (2012, 2013)
First-team All-American (2013)


Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148039 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Clowney takes games and plays off.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
23349 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:30 pm to
Clowney? Naw, Saban wants 100% every play.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4815 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:33 pm to
Best one he missed is LF. Best one he got is Reggie Ragland.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35671 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Do pass rushers ever rack up sacks in that saban defense with the buck position or whatever? Even with Dante fowler a 3rd overall pick that position never really produced eye popping numbers under muschamp



As far as Clowney goes, I'm not sure where Saban puts him. Bama had a lot of negative recruiting thrown at them because Clowney was being told that they'd just make him a 300 pound 2 gapper. Now they may have made him a fulltime lineman, but as Jon Allen's work this year suggests, it would not hinder him at all as a passrusher in Saban's defense.

As far as Saban's hybrid spot goes, he has a strong emphasis on the position being able to set the edge and play the run. Even more so than as a rusher, as his logic has always been shut down the run first.

You can be a good passrusher, but you have to be a good runstopper too. Why Bama's subpackage rushers are that instead of starters...
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
13545 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:58 pm to
Irs winston. They win another.1-2 with him plus hes from bama
This post was edited on 10/18/15 at 5:59 pm
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 10/18/15 at 5:59 pm to
Clowney took too many plays off. I really wanted Keenna Allen, but he wanted us to take his brother.
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