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re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:56 pm to OU_Fan
Posted on 9/29/15 at 10:56 pm to OU_Fan
No chance any of them go undefeated in the BIG XII. None. Hell their conference is all changing to the spread offense as it is except some old man football holdouts who'll learn the hard way. Hey who ended up winning that old man football/real man football debate anyway in hindsight now that you're all transitioning to the spread? lol....
They lowered the drawbridge to the barbarians at the gate and two middle of the road BIG XII non-contender teams have changed their conference forever.
They lowered the drawbridge to the barbarians at the gate and two middle of the road BIG XII non-contender teams have changed their conference forever.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 11:00 pm
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Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:29 pm to mightysooner
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Hey who ended up winning that old man football/real man football debate anyway
LSU still doing fine with old man football.
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They lowered the drawbridge to the barbarians at the gate and two middle of the road BIG XII non-contender teams have changed their conference forever.
Aggy is 0-3 against us and we haven't played Mizzou.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:41 pm to mightysooner
quote:FIFY
Yet they're still 10 times more poor
turns out smoking meth and dirt farming doesnt help pay the bills
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:45 pm to Wild Thang
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LSU still doing fine with old man football.
Based on what recently? Only teams playing for your CCG and national titles recently and winning their divisions have been spread oriented teams. Look at Ole Miss. A spread team.
You should expect fAggies to be 0-3 against you. They're lowly wannabe fAggies.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:51 pm to mightysooner
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Based on what recently? Only teams playing for your CCG and national titles recently and winning their divisions have been spread oriented teams.
We are 3 years removed from BAMA vs LSU for the title.
Lot more recent than Oklahoma played for one.
Posted on 9/29/15 at 11:58 pm to Wild Thang
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We are 3 years removed from BAMA vs LSU for the title.
Lot more recent than Oklahoma played for one.
Ya'll didn't have any spread teams in your league back then. Lining up in the I formation and running into the pile isn't going to win CCGs or national titles anymore. Times have changed. Your league has changed. And spread teams are at the top of it. Be honest with yourself.
This post was edited on 9/29/15 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:39 am to Gary Busey
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I want to see Ohio State line up and play Bama, LSU, Georgia, State, Ole Miss, A&M, Auburn and Florida all in the same season and see what the frick happens.
Which team in the SEC has done this?
Well, we play three top ten teams in the same month. Don't think anyone else in the country has to do that.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 12:51 am to Roger Klarvin
A&M has done nothing for the SEC reputation. Shut the frick up.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 4:11 am to mightysooner
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Ya'll didn't have any spread teams in your league back then.
Oregon and WVU were spread teams "back then".
Posted on 9/30/15 at 5:47 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Based on Sagarin
Ohio State SoS = 76 // LSU SoS = 7
@ 15 Michigan (3-1) // @ 1 Alabama (3-1) // SEC +14
vs 28 Michigan State (4-0) // @ 2 Ole Miss (4-0) // SEC + 26
@ 46 Virginia Tech (2-2) // vs 19 Texas A&M (4-0) // SEC + 27
vs 51 Penn State (3-1) // @ 20 Miss State (3-1) // SEC + 31
@ 52 Illinois (3-1) // vs 32 Florida (4-0) // SEC + 20
vs 64 Minnesota (3-1) // vs 35 Auburn (2-2) // SEC + 29
vs 65 N Illinois (2-2) // vs 48 Arkansas (1-3) // SEC + 17
@ 72 Indiana (4-0) // @ 50 South Carolina (2-2) // SEC + 22
vs 83 Maryland (2-2) // vs 57 W Kentucky (3-1) // SEC + 26
@ 90 Rutgers (2-2) // @ 66 Syracuse (3-1) // SEC + 24
vs 102 W Michigan (1-2) // vs 126 McNeese State (3-0) // B1G +24
vs 108 Hawaii (2-2) // vs 178 E Michigan (1-3) // B1G +70
Face it, Urban Meyer faked heart issues because he knew what a meat grinder the SEC was. Now he only plays 2 or 3 Top 50 type schools and saves his players for the post season. Pretty sweet gig he has at Bucknuts. He can now go undefeated or 1 loss vs having another loss or 3 playing an SEC schedule. Bobby Bowden pulled that crap at Free Shoes and it works but it is the pussy way to play.
Looking head to head LSU vs OSU the Tigers average about 25 spots ahead of Bucknuts through the first 10 games on the schedule.
Ohio State SoS = 76 // LSU SoS = 7
@ 15 Michigan (3-1) // @ 1 Alabama (3-1) // SEC +14
vs 28 Michigan State (4-0) // @ 2 Ole Miss (4-0) // SEC + 26
@ 46 Virginia Tech (2-2) // vs 19 Texas A&M (4-0) // SEC + 27
vs 51 Penn State (3-1) // @ 20 Miss State (3-1) // SEC + 31
@ 52 Illinois (3-1) // vs 32 Florida (4-0) // SEC + 20
vs 64 Minnesota (3-1) // vs 35 Auburn (2-2) // SEC + 29
vs 65 N Illinois (2-2) // vs 48 Arkansas (1-3) // SEC + 17
@ 72 Indiana (4-0) // @ 50 South Carolina (2-2) // SEC + 22
vs 83 Maryland (2-2) // vs 57 W Kentucky (3-1) // SEC + 26
@ 90 Rutgers (2-2) // @ 66 Syracuse (3-1) // SEC + 24
vs 102 W Michigan (1-2) // vs 126 McNeese State (3-0) // B1G +24
vs 108 Hawaii (2-2) // vs 178 E Michigan (1-3) // B1G +70
Face it, Urban Meyer faked heart issues because he knew what a meat grinder the SEC was. Now he only plays 2 or 3 Top 50 type schools and saves his players for the post season. Pretty sweet gig he has at Bucknuts. He can now go undefeated or 1 loss vs having another loss or 3 playing an SEC schedule. Bobby Bowden pulled that crap at Free Shoes and it works but it is the pussy way to play.
Looking head to head LSU vs OSU the Tigers average about 25 spots ahead of Bucknuts through the first 10 games on the schedule.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:17 am to Cheese Grits
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Based on Sagarin
Stopped reading here.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I tend to agree with you but it is a metric that has some relative base for all the teams in college football.
What would you suggest as an alternative metric?
BTW, even if it is Sagarin, it does illustrate the easier Bucknuts schedule.
What would you suggest as an alternative metric?
BTW, even if it is Sagarin, it does illustrate the easier Bucknuts schedule.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:25 am to DisplacedBuckeye
OSU plays a cupcake schedule that all but guarantees a trip to the CFP. Why deny this obvious fact? Come December, it'll feel great. Just own it.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:30 am to r2d2
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A&M has done nothing for the SEC reputation. Shut the frick up.
I don't know man, We take care of our business in our Out of Conference Games. Not sure what else we can do, Outside of winning a BCS game, which No SEC team did last year.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 6:34 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:30 am to Cheese Grits
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I tend to agree with you but it is a metric that has some relative base for all the teams in college football.
It's an outdated ranking system from the days of the BcS. My dog has as much chance at getting the rankings right as Sagarin's nonsense formulas.
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What would you suggest as an alternative metric?
Thoughtful discussion and analysis, after more than four games have been played.
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BTW, even if it is Sagarin, it does illustrate the easier Bucknuts schedule.
I don't remember ever saying Ohio State didn't have an easy schedule. Did I?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:36 am to zelman
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OSU plays a cupcake schedule that all but guarantees a trip to the CFP. Why deny this obvious fact? Come December, it'll feel great. Just own it.
I'll say that I'd rather play Rutgers than Mississippi State. The rest isn't far enough apart for me to care. I will also say that I'd rather play Syracuse, Eastern Michigan, Western Kentucky, and cancel a game against mighty McNeese State due to "weather" than play VT in a night game at Blacksburg and any three teams.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 6:40 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's an outdated ranking system from the days of the BcS.
??
Pretty sure the system goes back to the 1970's and has been tweaked often since them. Developed by MIT guy so as a Bucknut you must appreciate MIT as a solid academic institution.
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I don't remember ever saying Ohio State didn't have an easy schedule.
You did not put up the OP. My team by team analysis was to support the OP.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:20 am to Cheese Grits
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?? Pretty sure the system goes back to the 1970's and has been tweaked often since them. Developed by MIT guy so as a Bucknut you must appreciate MIT as a solid academic institution.
Right, and computers no longer decide the best teams. We try to do that on the field now. MIT is a solid academic institution, but I wonder about their football acumen. I don't care who developed it. It isn't relevant to anything, and never really was in my opinion.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:25 am to Roger Klarvin
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There is a difference between a good team that has to play 3 games a year they have any realistic chance of losing and a good team that has to play double tha
Latest evidence...
2015 Bowl record:
Pac-12 was 6-2 overall, including a 5-1 record by the Pac-12 teams ranked in the top 25 by the college football playoff selection committee.
SEC's top three ranked teams - Alabama, Mississippi and Mississippi State stunk it up.
The SEC was just 2-4 against ranked bowl opponents while the Pac-12 beat every team the SEC lost to.
The party is over. SEC isn't top dog anymore. Parity reigns and tOSU, Michigan State proves that.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 7:27 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 7:29 am to rmnldr
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Ohio State would destroy some SEC teams dude
Michigan State would also win the SEC and Michigan would beat every team outside of LSU.
USC would also easily win the SEC from the Pac-12.
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