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Would you put Spurrier in the same class as Bryant, Neyland, Saban?
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:45 pm
Just heard Clay Travis (I know) say that Spurrier is right next to Bryant and ahead of Neyland, which I think is ridiculous.
He's a Hall of Fame coach, no doubt, but come on.
He's a Hall of Fame coach, no doubt, but come on.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
He's a little more distinctive in another class of Player / coaches to me, but no. He's not a legend like the ones you listed..
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
No.
He practically reinvented the way the league played football and was mega-elite for wins and SEC titles for a decade, but he's not in the same class as the others. If he had stayed at UF 10 more years...maybe.
Regardless though, he's a top 10 SEC coach of all time WITHOUT question.
He practically reinvented the way the league played football and was mega-elite for wins and SEC titles for a decade, but he's not in the same class as the others. If he had stayed at UF 10 more years...maybe.
Regardless though, he's a top 10 SEC coach of all time WITHOUT question.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
I think he's probably in the tier just below those guys.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:48 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Had he stayed at Florida until retirement, this would go without question. I don't doubt he knows x's and o's better than those three, but he doesn't have the resume to get a seat at that table.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:49 pm to Vols&Shaft83
depends on how bit the "class" is.
spurrier is definitely one of the best coaches ever but you have not name all of the great ones; in fact you have named no coach outside of the SEC.
spurrier is definitely one of the best coaches ever but you have not name all of the great ones; in fact you have named no coach outside of the SEC.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:50 pm to Vols&Shaft83
His run of championship-less football at SC is hurting him. I know SC has been better with him there, but he has only won the division once I think and he was smoked in the SECCG in record fashion that year.
Not even 1 BCS bowl at SC, right?
The run he was on at Florida was putting him in the running for GOAT, but his reputation has slipped a bit.
Not even 1 BCS bowl at SC, right?
The run he was on at Florida was putting him in the running for GOAT, but his reputation has slipped a bit.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Why not?
Neyland
173–31–12
4 NCs, 5 SEC titles
Spurrier
226–85–2
1 NC, 1 ACC title, 6 SEC titles
Subjectively, I think you could argue that the era in which Spurrier coached was much tougher than the era in which Neyland coached. You also have two consider that Spurrier took to bad/mediocre programs (Duke, USC) and turned them in to consistent winners in his time there. Also, it's not like UF was a yearly powerhouse when he arrived
Really, I'd only put Spurrier below Bryant and Saban
Neyland
173–31–12
4 NCs, 5 SEC titles
Spurrier
226–85–2
1 NC, 1 ACC title, 6 SEC titles
Subjectively, I think you could argue that the era in which Spurrier coached was much tougher than the era in which Neyland coached. You also have two consider that Spurrier took to bad/mediocre programs (Duke, USC) and turned them in to consistent winners in his time there. Also, it's not like UF was a yearly powerhouse when he arrived
Really, I'd only put Spurrier below Bryant and Saban
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:57 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Bryant, Saban, and Neyland all won more than FOUR national championships. Spurrier only won one. And that championship, like Alabama 2011, was a lucky mulligan.
He's definitely a top 10 coach in SEC history, but he's not in the same universe as Saban and the others, despite having a winning record vs. Saban. Besides, who loses twice in a row to Mike Dubose and loses 34-7 the second time?![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
He's definitely a top 10 coach in SEC history, but he's not in the same universe as Saban and the others, despite having a winning record vs. Saban. Besides, who loses twice in a row to Mike Dubose and loses 34-7 the second time?
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Posted on 9/3/15 at 3:58 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Spurrier the coach? Great...but not Elite or Legendary. There are very few in my mind who reach that "elite" status.....and very few "Legendary"
Saban, Meyer, Knute Rockney, Frank Leahy, Bowden, Joe Pa, Tom Osbourne (early 90's Nebraska man), Bryant.
Switzer, Tressel, Don James, Dennis Erickson in the next tier.
Spurrier would be in the tier below that for me
Saban, Meyer, Knute Rockney, Frank Leahy, Bowden, Joe Pa, Tom Osbourne (early 90's Nebraska man), Bryant.
Switzer, Tressel, Don James, Dennis Erickson in the next tier.
Spurrier would be in the tier below that for me
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:03 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:
He's a Hall of Fame coach, no doubt, but come on.
Hell no......
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:10 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Need at least 1 more national title to be in that class. He's certainly a top 5-10 SEC coach of all time though.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
No. He's closer to Johnny Majors both in personality and in his propensity to take on tough/rebuilding jobs and have them bear fruit. He's not even close to Neyland and Bryant (legendary tier) and I put Saban just a tier below them (modern dynasty tier?) for a few reasons and the only as much as I don't like the man Urban Meyer is the only one in the 'modern dynasty tier' with Saban.
Spurrier is a a damn good coach but he's still couple of rungs below, mainly because of what Saban and Meyer have managed to achieve.
Spurrier is a a damn good coach but he's still couple of rungs below, mainly because of what Saban and Meyer have managed to achieve.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:24 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Behind Bryant and Saban. Ahead of Neyland.
Posted on 9/3/15 at 4:27 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Bryant is in a class by himself as it relates to the SEC. 14 SEC titles as a head coach to go along with his 6 national championships.
Everyone else lines up in the tiers below him.
Everyone else lines up in the tiers below him.
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