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Some Truths about SLAVERY

Posted on 7/21/15 at 6:01 pm
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 6:01 pm
Do whites deserve all of this blame and guilt for slavery? Are reparations necessary, or a slap in the face to those who aren't idiots of history...lets dive in and look at some facts...


Crash Course on Atlantic Slavery.

The Truth About Slavery

From first video.

From 1500 to 1880 CE 10-12 million African slaves were forcibly moved to Americas. 15% died during the voyage.

Destination of Atlantic slave trade
41% to Caribbean
41% to Brazil
5% go USA.

Despite white guilt, Africans were NOT captured by whites and brought over to be enslaved by whites. They were captured by Africans, traded for by Europeans, then brought over to the Western Hemisphere.

Average life expectancy on a Brazilian sugar plantation was 23 years.

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From Second Video

Some quick hitters but much better to watch the full video...

-Slavery is a world wide phenomenon by all races.

-Slave comes from the word Slav, the white Europeans who were often enslaved through out time.

-Certain passages in the Old testament condone slavery and the new testament does not discourage it.

-Before African slaves were brought to the Americas, Africans were owned by both other Africans and Arabs.

- In the Americas blacks even owned other blacks. For example in Charleston there were 407 black Americans who owned slaves.

-28% of freed blacks owned slaves.

-Death toll of the Muslim Slave trade estimates at around 112 million.

- White Europeans were also abducted and turned into slaves by North African pirates.

-Muslims enslaved over 150 millions of Africans. Many of whom became eunuchs, or lived such a rough life that they did not often reproduce. Which is why their ancestors are no longer there.

-Emperor Charles V of the Holy Roman Empire authorized Europes involvement in slave trade in 1519.

- Nice chart of where Atlantic slaves went at 14:30 mark.

- Britain deserves most of the credit for ending slavery. In 1810 passing a law to make slave trading a felony.

- Around 20min mark discusses US laws and slavery. Makes a case that while the wealthy owned the slaves the middle class footed the bill through taxes to patrol and control them.

- Irish slave trade: 1625 30,000 political prisoners sold as slaves to Brits in the West Indies. Whites made up of most of the early slave trade here. From 1641-1652 to 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 sold as slaves. Irelands population fell from 1.6 million to 600,000 in a decade. Negro slaves were worth more than Irish, and thus treated better.

- Around 36 min mark makes a case that slavery isnt a race debate but a state power debate.

Slavery in the USA

A really good video that focuses more on slavery within the USA. While the above puts the concept of slavery in a much broader macro view. This micro view is still very important to realize that although the USA's role has been blown up too much by revisions of history, it was still a very, very bad thing.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 6:10 pm to
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- Irish slave trade: 1625 30,000 political prisoners sold as slaves to Brits in the West Indies. Whites made up of most of the early slave trade here. From 1641-1652 to 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 sold as slaves. Irelands population fell from 1.6 million to 600,000 in a decade. Negro slaves were worth more than Irish, and thus treated better.


frick the English
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91194 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Irish slave trade: 1625 30,000 political prisoners sold as slaves to Brits in the West Indies. Whites made up of most of the early slave trade here. From 1641-1652 to 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and 300,000 sold as slaves. Irelands population fell from 1.6 million to 600,000 in a decade. Negro slaves were worth more than Irish, and thus treated better.


I'm 1/3 Irish. Where's my entitlements? I DEMAND SOCIAL JUSTICE FOR MY PEOPLE!

:realizesI'm1/3English:

Well frick. I'll just claim my Italian 1/3.




Don't forget the Jews being enslaved to Egyptians. Most every ethnic group has been in slavery at some point in history. Humans deserve the blame...we shouldn't feel guilty though because we had nothing to do with it. We should feel proud that, as a civilized society, we reject slavery and our closest ancestors abolished it.
Posted by vol27
fort oglethorpe
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:17 pm to
That doesn't push white guilt so I don't believe it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Do whites deserve all of this blame and guilt for slavery?




I don't feel the teeniest, tiniest, slightest bit of "guilt" for something that happened 150 years ago when neither I nor anybody that I know nor anybody that I know has ever known has been alive.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:55 pm to
black lives matter
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 7:57 pm to
Knowing my family history I feel no guilt. My ancestors were right alongside the slaves working.


Also I've never owned a slave so people can take that issue elsewhere
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Do whites deserve all of this blame and guilt for slavery?


Of course not, but that doesn't prevent the people from claiming differently for whatever handouts are available.
Posted by Phat Phil
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 8:24 pm to





Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

BlackPawnMartyr


What the actual frick. I don't even know what to say except welcome to the land of the truly enlightened. Enjoy your stay.

Also, on the subject of the Irish:
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:48 pm to
Slavs are white?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/21/15 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

Muslims enslaved over 150 millions of Africans. Many of whom became eunuchs, or lived such a rough life that they did not often reproduce. Which is why their ancestors are no longer there.




Such a peaceful, tolerant people.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 7/21/15 at 10:21 pm to
I hate all white people and want my reparations right fricking NOW















































































































































This is silly. Got dayum this site is ate up with race. I mean, for real.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15745 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:49 am to


You are going against the narrative
Posted by ehole
in a house
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 5:29 am to
quote:

Destination of Atlantic slave trade
41% to Caribbean
41% to Brazil
5% go USA


So are we gonna pretend these slaves weren't all going to white people of European descent? I'm pretty sure the native people of these lands weren't importing the slaves
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67524 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:20 am to
quote:

Do whites deserve all of this blame and guilt for slavery?

No
quote:

Are reparations necessary

No
quote:

or a slap in the face to those who aren't idiots of history

Yes

End of thread
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 6:58 am to
quote:

Africans were NOT captured by whites and brought over to be enslaved by whites. They were captured by Africans, traded for by Europeans, then brought over to the Western Hemisphere.

Virtually eliminating thereby any responsibility Europe and America might have for slavery and its consequences. How nice.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:52 am to
Guilt?
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