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re: First TV ratings for the College World Series are out

Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:57 am to
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:57 am to
Outside of the schools that are actually good at college baseball, nobody really cares, this is not really news.

College football is mega huge, college basketball is still really big (especially the tournament), outside of that there really isn't much national attention for any other college sports.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:02 am to
pretty incredible that you can turn a thread that should be interesting into douchetastic dick waving.

of course, you couldnt even handle being on Facebook w/o acting like an arse so I'm not surprised that you shite all over a message board too.
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4349 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:05 am to
How does the WCWS compare to the CWS so far this year?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30745 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:06 am to
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Outside of the schools that are actually good at college baseball, nobody really cares
This basically. I'll watch the chmapionship games, but that's about it.

Our baseball has sucked so long, I've lost interest in the sport altogether.



Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:12 am to
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Looks like college baseball has a long way to go. But it disproves the South Carolina fan theory that "baseball is second only to football season"


Not really. Basketball draws ratings, even women's basketball. Nobody is denying that.

Being that SC made it to the Final Four of the NCAAW Tournament, I would assume that more than just SC fans were watching (we did play NOTRE DAME, a WBB powerhouse).

SC is becoming a power in WBB and we have a great coach poised to take us to the top... But here at SOUTH CAROLINA.. Baseball is THE number 2 sport. It's our most successful sport and we spend big money on coaches and facilities.

Maybe one day Basketball will surpass baseball at SC.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:14 am to
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But it disproves the South Carolina fan theory that "baseball is second only to football season" when first round NCAA games in the middle of a weekday afternoon and Women's Final Four games are spanking the college baseball premiere event in television viewership.

What the frick are you talking about? Who the hell has said that?
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29278 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:15 am to
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NCAA Tournament is most heavily bet on (legally) sporting event on the Earth. Literally. They use the terms BILLIONS. As far as unofficial office pools, estimates are that it's far, far greater than we can peg an official dollar amount on.

To compare that to the NCAA Baseball Tournament, which has only recently gotten the type of exposure and coverage from ESPN that other sports have, is really kinda silly.

The guys in Vegas talk about betting odds as they relate to public interest and mention that the first really big NCAA Hoops action they took was in 1979 for Michigan State/Indiana State with Magic/Bird.

That was 36 years ago. So with that much time and focus dedicated to the sport versus what's been given to collegiate baseball...are you really expecting something different?

This is nothing more than statistics which present an opportunity for your confirmation bias. But I can assure you where this sport has been given a priority-LSU, MSU, South Carolina and the SEC as a whole-its been proven that interest-and profit-will flow into and out of it, respectively.



Yes, but it will never come close to basketball. If you grow up in a large city, or even the suburbs, you'll see the fanaticism around youth/AAU/high school basketball. Culturally, there are just a lot more people interested in basketball in this country.

I mean I enjoyed college baseball coverage this year, and I usually give zero fricks about college baseball, but it's growth will be measured. Nothing earth shattering.
Posted by DorchesterGamecock
Bristol, CT
Member since May 2014
793 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:19 am to
By the way... I have no doubt in my mind that if Dawn Staley won a few titles at SC and Frank Martin can turn us into a tournament program with a few sweet sixteens or elite eights (or more) then basketball probably would surpass baseball at SC..

But it's going to take a lot of winning at the high level (in a relatively short amount of time) for SC basketball to overturn the decades of high level success of SC Baseball.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:21 am to
what was the competition on other networks?

or do you believe that bama beating Georgia State is the same as bama beating auburn?

competition level should be considered.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 10:29 am to
quote:

TeLeFaWx
quote:

Yes, but it will never come close to basketball. If you grow up in a large city, or even the suburbs, you'll see the fanaticism around youth/AAU/high school basketball. Culturally, there are just a lot more people interested in basketball in this country. I mean I enjoyed college baseball coverage this year, and I usually give zero fricks about college baseball, but it's growth will be measured. Nothing earth shattering.


I'm not sure anyone is here advocating that there will be Earth shattering growth. But for many regions of the country that don't have major league teams, collegiate baseball-provided ESPN provides sustained increases in coverage and visibility on its platforms as it is now-will continue to fuel a growth in the sport.

As far as a comparison to AAU and Youth Leagues, man...You haven't kept up much with the rise of travel ball baseball teams have you? It costs more $ to play and doesn't get the coverage but I assure you that travel ball teams and parents with pockets that are far, far deeper than AAU Teams are spending discretionary income to get their kids noticed.

Again, nobody's saying it'll be Earth Shattering. But growth is coming and that's not in question at all. My point is that comparing the sport's exposure NOW in terms of TV ratings to NCAA Men's Tournament games isn't logical and is only an opportunity for confirmation bias of a singularly held opinion of an individual.

It isn't merited in logic and doesn't hold up to scrutiny when discussed with facts and context.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39466 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:46 pm to
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But it disproves the South Carolina fan theory ....


Wait, errrrr, wut?

That's what this was all about?

lulz

What, "South Carolina fan theory?"
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
145277 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 12:50 pm to
Who is your favorite college football team?
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 2:57 pm to
Where is the first round of the women's basketball tournament. Did the women's tournament go up against the nba finals like baseball.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
56786 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 2:59 pm to
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If you grow up in a large city, or even the suburbs, you'll see the fanaticism around youth/AAU/high school basketball. Culturally, there are just a lot more people interested in basketball in this country


Much of this can be attributed to the Catholics in big cities 2 and 3 generations ago. Inner city schools may not have had a baseball or football team but in my youth they all had a basketball team and a boxing team.Seems like in the 70's and 80's they were phasing out boxing but all kept their basketball teams.
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
24586 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:04 pm to
Highest rated 1st round women's tourney game was .77 but it was up against men's tourney
Posted by northalabamacracker
Glasgow
Member since Sep 2011
6466 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:04 pm to
People just don't care to watch a second tier college sport.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
81237 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

what was the competition on other networks?

or do you believe that bama beating Georgia State is the same as bama beating auburn?

competition level should be considered.


This is true, but it varies by scale. Most people don't even know who is good/bad at college baseball. Far more casual sports fans appreciate who is good/bad at college football, and thus the disparity between viewership by competition level is probably more important.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34264 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:47 pm to
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I don't know how anyone could watch and enjoy any Women's sporting event outside of tennis... That's just tough to wrap my mind around.
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Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34264 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:53 pm to
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March Madness beats the NBA so this comparison doesn't work


The gap in quality between college baseball and MLB is much higher than the gap between college basketball and NBA. There will never be an Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony type talent in college baseball. It's one of the reasons why minor league baseball is doing so well. That's the only place you'll be able to watch a Mike Trout or Bryce Harper before they make it to the big leagues.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20877 posts
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:04 pm to
The MLB is really worried about their demographics, their audience is getting grayer and grayer. That can't help the CWS.
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