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Posted on 3/22/15 at 3:56 pm to texag7
Posted on 3/22/15 at 3:56 pm to texag7
If the offense picks up, the defensive statistics will suffer, for no other reason than Miles is known to avoid kicking a man when he's down. Chavis's defenses the last two years were adequate, but not dominant... That was an illusion created in an effort to keep opponents off the field.
As bad as our offense was, our strategy was to keep them off the board by keeping them on the bench. There were games where teams combined for 2-3 drives in a quarter of play.
If our offense is terrible again, you'll see that approach again. If our offense picks it up, you'll see the defense be asked to spend more possessions on the field.
As bad as our offense was, our strategy was to keep them off the board by keeping them on the bench. There were games where teams combined for 2-3 drives in a quarter of play.
If our offense is terrible again, you'll see that approach again. If our offense picks it up, you'll see the defense be asked to spend more possessions on the field.
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 3:57 pm to texag7
2011 level nastiness without Mathieu. I don't think anyone could fill the turnover machine role but overall the defense could end up better balanced than the 2011 defense.
We'll finally generate a pass rush with just four lineman and with the 4-3 under/3-4 under looks the defense will look nothing like what Chavis had. LSU will lead the SEC in sack totals and Davon Godchaux will lead the SEC in TFL.
Also, Kevin Steele gets more respect from his players than Chavis ever did. Steele actually communicates with his players and works with all position groups. Chief hid in a corner with his linebackers and chewed everyone else out. It's great to now have a real DC at LSU.
ETA: BeBe's guys gonna wreck shite.
We'll finally generate a pass rush with just four lineman and with the 4-3 under/3-4 under looks the defense will look nothing like what Chavis had. LSU will lead the SEC in sack totals and Davon Godchaux will lead the SEC in TFL.
Also, Kevin Steele gets more respect from his players than Chavis ever did. Steele actually communicates with his players and works with all position groups. Chief hid in a corner with his linebackers and chewed everyone else out. It's great to now have a real DC at LSU.
ETA: BeBe's guys gonna wreck shite.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 3:58 pm to texag7
Since, with the exception of a few, everyone on here is being retarded with stupid responses and depressing comments, I'll answer with actual helpful information for your question:
DL: We return our 3 deep from DT last year, so we should be just as good if not better. I would be a lot more excited about our DTs if it weren't for Travonte Valentine being suspended indefinitely. If he is able to play, every word is that he is an absolute monster.. At DE we lost our 2 starters from last year that were both good against the run, but extremely disappointing against the pass. It's a miracle our secondary was as good as they were with virtually no pass rush. This year Bowers and Clark will likely start, and I expect them to do much better rushing the passer. We also have some solid pass rushers in the rotation behind those first 2 guys. Overall I think our DL will be about as good as they were in the past, with maybe a little less ability to stop runs on the edge but more pass rush.
LB: Beckwith might be the best MLB in the SEC, he is an athletic freak. The other 2 spots we will fill witg returning starter Louis, and Sr Deion Jones. They should be just as good as they were last year IMO. We lose Kwon Alexander, who was great for us but everyone should be better and Jones is a vet. Also have some great depth at this postion.
DB: DBU will be DBU. We very well might have 4 future 1st round draft pics on this team in Mills, Adams, White, and Toliver. We will be just as good, if not better than we were last year. Interested to see who wins the battle opposite of White between Paris and Toliver, but either way I think they will be fine. Plus we return Dwayne Thomas from injury who was a great nickleback for us.
Overall we will be just as good if not better than last year talent wise. We may take a small step back against the run, but I think we will be absolutely dominant against the pass, especially if we develop a pass rush... The big question obviously is how will the DC transition work. I don't think it will be hard for us to make a smooth transition. The talent is all there, it's just a matter of making it simple for the players and being more aggressive than Chavis was. If we can do this, it will be a top 5 defense in the country. If we finish anywhere outside the top 30, I think Steele would deserve to be canned. That's just how talented and deep we are across the board. Really the only weakness I could see us having are defending off tackle running games.
DL: We return our 3 deep from DT last year, so we should be just as good if not better. I would be a lot more excited about our DTs if it weren't for Travonte Valentine being suspended indefinitely. If he is able to play, every word is that he is an absolute monster.. At DE we lost our 2 starters from last year that were both good against the run, but extremely disappointing against the pass. It's a miracle our secondary was as good as they were with virtually no pass rush. This year Bowers and Clark will likely start, and I expect them to do much better rushing the passer. We also have some solid pass rushers in the rotation behind those first 2 guys. Overall I think our DL will be about as good as they were in the past, with maybe a little less ability to stop runs on the edge but more pass rush.
LB: Beckwith might be the best MLB in the SEC, he is an athletic freak. The other 2 spots we will fill witg returning starter Louis, and Sr Deion Jones. They should be just as good as they were last year IMO. We lose Kwon Alexander, who was great for us but everyone should be better and Jones is a vet. Also have some great depth at this postion.
DB: DBU will be DBU. We very well might have 4 future 1st round draft pics on this team in Mills, Adams, White, and Toliver. We will be just as good, if not better than we were last year. Interested to see who wins the battle opposite of White between Paris and Toliver, but either way I think they will be fine. Plus we return Dwayne Thomas from injury who was a great nickleback for us.
Overall we will be just as good if not better than last year talent wise. We may take a small step back against the run, but I think we will be absolutely dominant against the pass, especially if we develop a pass rush... The big question obviously is how will the DC transition work. I don't think it will be hard for us to make a smooth transition. The talent is all there, it's just a matter of making it simple for the players and being more aggressive than Chavis was. If we can do this, it will be a top 5 defense in the country. If we finish anywhere outside the top 30, I think Steele would deserve to be canned. That's just how talented and deep we are across the board. Really the only weakness I could see us having are defending off tackle running games.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:00 pm to texag7
still very talented and should have much more pressure on the QB given Steele's preference and Coach O's teaching style
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:11 pm to texag7
I'm not worried, talent makes plays.
Take a look, statistically Chavis' defenses were always better here than his tenure at Tennessee. He fielded defenses ranked >50 numerous times at Tennessee. There were many people at LSU who didn't want Miles hiring him
Steele will be fine
Take a look, statistically Chavis' defenses were always better here than his tenure at Tennessee. He fielded defenses ranked >50 numerous times at Tennessee. There were many people at LSU who didn't want Miles hiring him
Steele will be fine
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:14 pm to cas4t
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LB: Beckwith might be the best MLB in the SEC, he is an athletic freak. The other 2 spots we will fill with returning starter Louis, and Sr Deion Jones. They should be just as good as they were last year IMO. We lose Kwon Alexander, who was great for us but everyone should be better and Jones is a vet. Also have some great depth at this position.
I've heard that Clifton Garrett has really been impressing and if the OLB play isn't up to par, and if the staff thinks he has the lateral speed to handle it, we could see Garrett see some time on the field in that position.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:18 pm to texag7
Has A&M beatin LSU yet.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:33 pm to texag7
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After the Dec. 30th bowl loss, LSU finished their solid season with the defense ranked #9.
A testament to the talent LSU has that they're able to be that good in spite of Chavis
The players have much more respect for Steele than Chavis, which is understandable given Chavis' behavior 
Good luck next season Aggies
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 4:54 pm to PentagonTiger
Garrett absolutely has the lateral speed. Dude is like a freaking torpedo.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:24 pm to rmnldr
I think they'll be great. Steele is obviously very well-respected by the players. And that really counts for a lot when it comes to game planning, adjustments, etc.
Arkansas players really respected Johnelle as well, and that turned out pretty well for us.
Arkansas players really respected Johnelle as well, and that turned out pretty well for us.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:36 pm to tickfawtiger
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an elite set of defensive coaches
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:39 pm to texag7
Is see our total defense being lower but our sacks and tfls will rise back to the top of the sec. As much shite as Ed Orgeron gets, he does 2 thi2mgs at an elite level, recruit and coach dline.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:47 pm to texag7
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After the Dec. 30th bowl loss
Thanks Chavis
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:50 pm to xxKylexx
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While you're looking at the TOP, I'm looking at the W/L column and points scored (or lack thereof rather)
That has nothing to do with your original statement.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 5:52 pm to UNO
quote:2014
LSU will be a top two defense in the conference, like usual.
1) Ole Miss
2) Alabama
3) LSU
2013
1) Alabama
2) Florida
3) South Carolina
4) LSU
2012
1) Alabama
2) Florida
3) LSU
2011
1) Alabama
2) LSU
2010
1) Alabama
2) LSU
2009
1) Alabama
2) Florida
3) LSU
2008
1) Florida
2) Alabama
3) Auburn
4) Vandy
5) Ole Miss
6) South Carolina
7) Kentucky
8) Georgia
9) LSU
2007
1) Auburn
2) LSU
2006
1) LSU
2) Auburn
2005
1) Alabama
2) LSU
Top 3, but I'm being nit-picky and begging for an argument.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 6:03 pm to texag7
DL: Better because young talent has matured a little
LB: The same, Debo replaces Kwon and we don't miss a beat
DB: We need a second CB to step up but if that happens we'll be one of the league's best secondaries
In short, the 2015 has a chance to be better than 2014.
LB: The same, Debo replaces Kwon and we don't miss a beat
DB: We need a second CB to step up but if that happens we'll be one of the league's best secondaries
In short, the 2015 has a chance to be better than 2014.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 6:08 pm to TTsTowel
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2014
1) Ole Miss
2) Alabama
3) LSU
By what metric?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 6:12 pm to chilge1
quote:Points per game...
By what metric?
1) Ole Miss 17.3
2) Alabama 18.8
3) LSU 19.0
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/opponent-points-per-game
Posted on 3/22/15 at 6:16 pm to TTsTowel
You know that site is P5 games only, right?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 6:20 pm to chilge1
quote:The game that matter.
You know that site is P5 games only, right?
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