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Alabama fans, how accurate is this post by Tuscaloosa regarding Kevin Steele?
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:19 am
This is what he posted on The Rant:
Wanted to see if other Alabama fans shared his views or if he was in a vast minority.
TIA
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Perspective on Kevin Steele
I know you guys have been really upset about this hire for the most part - but I wanted to tell you all that losing Kevin Steele to LSU is not what anyone wanted to see happen - regardless of what any Bama fan tells you. I think most were anticipating him moving back into the DC role once Kirby found a head coaching gig.
In 2007, Steele led the least talented Bama team in 40 years to a fairly decent year. We ranked in the top half of the SEC on defense in every major statistical category. We were 3rd in the SEC for TFL, 5th in sacks, 6th in total defense, 4th in scoring defense, 4th in rushing defense, 3rd in INTs, etc... That was a team that lost to ULM and would be the first Bama team since 1971 to not have a single player drafted. Pretty good stuff.
Contrary to what has been posted here - Kevin Steele was not demoted to a position coach following the 2007 season. He was promoted to Associate Head Coach and "Head Coach of the Defense". Kirby Smart was given a promotion to "Co-Defensive Coordinator".
In 2008, Alabama's defense started becoming what it's been known for recently. We ranked 3rd in the conference in Pass efficiency defense, 4th in fumbles recovered, 1st in rush defense, 2nd in scoring defense (avg 14 pts/gm), 1st in total defense, etc... All top 10 rankings nationally.
I'm not sure what went down while he was at Clemson. Based on what I've seen, he really only had one bad year. It's obvious that Coach Saban thinks a whole lot of the man to hire him twice. The 2nd time he hired him he basically created a position for him just to have him on staff.
As far as recruiting goes - I'm not sure there's another defensive coordinator in America that is better at recruiting. Combine his recruiting strengths with Coach O and Les Miles on the same staff - all recruiting in the loaded state of Louisiana - and LSU will no doubt be absolutely STACKED for years to come.
I think you will all be pleasantly surprised at what Steele will do with an already extremely talented roster.
Wanted to see if other Alabama fans shared his views or if he was in a vast minority.
TIA
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:21 am to TheCaterpillar
Well that was nice of him to say
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:22 am to TheCaterpillar
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think most were anticipating him moving back into the DC role once Kirby found a head coaching gig.
I see zero truth in that statement - from a fans perspective that knows anything more than a 3rd inning score.
Simply put, I know zero people outside of BR that think he is a good DC.
He is a great recruiter and good administrator. I hated to lose his recruiting abilities but his coaching skills are lacking.
Steele has been here before and probably will be again. Same goes for Lance. Although, I never want to see Lance here again.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:22 am to TheCaterpillar
Very subtle...I like it
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:22 am to TheCaterpillar
I think that's a bit of hyperbole. He was in a support staff role before returning to the field for 2014. Very solid coach and great recruiter.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:23 am to TheCaterpillar
Below average coach, was a great recruiter, still very good, but no longer great. You just downgraded from Chavis in coaching and scheming. You basically hired a recruiter to run your defense.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:24 am to TheCaterpillar
Don't let facts get in the way of a good melt
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:24 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Very solid coach and great recruiter.
Interesting.
I, along with others, was very upset when looking at his resume. However, Bama fans and even my Clemson friends are saying he's actually a good coach with one really bad year at Clemson when he lost a lot of his seniors and had some personal, off-the-field issues.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:24 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:I find this part interesting in light of some of his other unrelated posts.
It's obvious that Coach Saban thinks a whole lot of the man to hire him twice.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:25 am to northalabamacracker
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Below average coach, was a great recruiter, still very good, but no longer great. You basically hired a recruiter to run your defense.
You are in the minority of Bama fans and Clemson fans saying these things FWIW.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:25 am to northalabamacracker
Northalabamacracker... Your post are the best. Anti-LSU at the best. Every post you make is bashing LSU. You sir are an idiot.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:27 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:25 am to TheCaterpillar
The guy is a good person and good recruiter. I think he makes any staff better. I don't think he was ever going to be the defensive coordinator again at Alabama under Saban, but had a job in the program as long as he wanted one.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:28 am to TheCaterpillar
I don't believe he was going to be DC ever again at Alabama. If that was the plan, when Kirby moved on, I would think he'd been hired for more than a support staff role in 2013. There was a defensive position coach opening that offseason as well.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:28 am to stat19
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Simply put, I know zero people outside of BR that think he is a good DC.
I know no one in BR that thinks he is either besides Les and the Board of Supervisors.
He had a couple good years at Clemson and one awful, disaster year.
We'll see what happens.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:28 am to TheCaterpillar
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You are in the minority of Bama fans and Clemson fans saying these things FWIW.
I think your wrong. I don't think he is a below average coach, but saying you downgraded from Chavis is a very accurate statement.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:29 am to Aman
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I think your wrong. I don't think he is a below average coach, but saying you downgraded from Chavis is a very accurate statement.
Did you read his post and mine?
He said he's a below average coach and I said most disagreed with that. Then you confirmed my assumption by disagreeing with that.
ETA:
I see where the confusion lies. I will edit.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:29 am to TheCaterpillar
Um, I don't know what to say. The best defense we ever had was 2011, and he had almost nothing to do with it. He didn't really recruit any of the players that made it up, and no - I don't think he was really a "DC-in-waiting" or any such nonsense.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:32 am to northalabamacracker
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Below average coach, was a great recruiter, still very good, but no longer great. You just downgraded from Chavis in coaching and scheming. You basically hired a recruiter to run your defense.
So we lost a great coach/mediocre recruiter for a great recruiter/mediocre coach? Well, this will keep things interesting.
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