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The Offense, NOT CHAVIS, Cost LSU Most of Those Close Games!
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:30 pm
I've seen it pointed out repeatedly that Chavis's defense couldn't get a stop late in the 4th or has given up several costly drives at the ends of halves, which resulted in several of LSU's recent losses.
The games fans point out are 2012/2014 Alabama, Clemson, 2013 UGA, 2013 Ole Miss, and Notre Dame.
With the exception of 2013 UGA, LSU's offense had trouble driving down the field and scoring touchdowns.
2012 Alabama: 3 points in the first half, 17 total
Clemson: Struggled to run the ball, spotted 14 points, only scored 24
Ole Miss: Shutout in the first half, 3 picks by Mett
2014 Alabama: Less than 80 yards passing, 13 points scored (3 off a short field)
Notre Dame: 28 points scored, 3 on explosive plays (100-yd KO return, 79 yard pass, 89 yard run).
The average of the unrefined scores from these 5 games is 21.2 points per game, which is unacceptable given LSU's resources.
LSU's offense should be good enough to cover for the defense those few times that Chavis's defense doesn't hold the opponent under 3 touchdowns.
LSU can't always count on winning a low scoring game.
On another note, Chavis's defense kept LSU in all of the 2009 losses, both 2010 losses, both 2012 losses, 2013 Ole Miss, 2014 Arkansas, and the Notre Dame game (believe it or not). The Mississippi State and Auburn games would have been more competitive if LSU's offense had kept their defense off the field. Not only will a defense get physically tired from being on the field against an uptempo or physical offense for most of a half or game, the defense might also get psychologically tired if they determine that their offense won't give them much if any help.
I don't have enough room to detail all the games that Chavis's defenses have won or helped win for LSU. The number is far greater than the number of games LSU's offense has won in the past 6 seasons.
No one should expect one's defense to play a complete 4 quarter game if the offense isn't held to the same standard. Both are essential to consistently fielding a championship caliber team.
The games fans point out are 2012/2014 Alabama, Clemson, 2013 UGA, 2013 Ole Miss, and Notre Dame.
With the exception of 2013 UGA, LSU's offense had trouble driving down the field and scoring touchdowns.
2012 Alabama: 3 points in the first half, 17 total
Clemson: Struggled to run the ball, spotted 14 points, only scored 24
Ole Miss: Shutout in the first half, 3 picks by Mett
2014 Alabama: Less than 80 yards passing, 13 points scored (3 off a short field)
Notre Dame: 28 points scored, 3 on explosive plays (100-yd KO return, 79 yard pass, 89 yard run).
The average of the unrefined scores from these 5 games is 21.2 points per game, which is unacceptable given LSU's resources.
LSU's offense should be good enough to cover for the defense those few times that Chavis's defense doesn't hold the opponent under 3 touchdowns.
LSU can't always count on winning a low scoring game.
On another note, Chavis's defense kept LSU in all of the 2009 losses, both 2010 losses, both 2012 losses, 2013 Ole Miss, 2014 Arkansas, and the Notre Dame game (believe it or not). The Mississippi State and Auburn games would have been more competitive if LSU's offense had kept their defense off the field. Not only will a defense get physically tired from being on the field against an uptempo or physical offense for most of a half or game, the defense might also get psychologically tired if they determine that their offense won't give them much if any help.
I don't have enough room to detail all the games that Chavis's defenses have won or helped win for LSU. The number is far greater than the number of games LSU's offense has won in the past 6 seasons.
No one should expect one's defense to play a complete 4 quarter game if the offense isn't held to the same standard. Both are essential to consistently fielding a championship caliber team.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:31 pm to Cumulonimbus
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The Offense, NOT CHAVIS, Cost LSU Most of Those Close Games!
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:32 pm to Cumulonimbus
what's with bama fans stating the obvious about Chavis tonight?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:32 pm to Cumulonimbus
Lol no. In those games the opponent had the ball and needed to drive the field to win and did, a lot of times with ease.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:32 pm to Cumulonimbus
Yep.
#tDecline
#tDecline
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:33 pm to Cumulonimbus
Anyone that's not your typical LSU retard already knows this.
Losing Chavis is huge..especially to a rival school. Alleva letting this happen is absolutely laughable.
Losing Chavis is huge..especially to a rival school. Alleva letting this happen is absolutely laughable.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:33 pm to Cumulonimbus
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LSU can't always count on winning a low scoring game.
Because today was a low scoring game.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:34 pm to Cumulonimbus
Exactly. Chavis would've had to have held whatever offense he was playing to under 21 points for them to win the game in most of these loses.
With the way offenses are scoring these days, it's not reasonable to expect that.
With the way offenses are scoring these days, it's not reasonable to expect that.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:56 pm to Cumulonimbus
long story short, when You have a lead, and there is 2 minutes, the game is in your hands.
I can't think of a real close game where Chavis actually stopped a team int he 2 minute drill.
I can't think of a real close game where Chavis actually stopped a team int he 2 minute drill.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:07 pm to Cumulonimbus
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Cumulonimbus
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've seen it pointed out repeatedly that Chavis's defense couldn't get a stop late in the 4th or has given up several costly drives at the ends of halves, which resulted in several of LSU's recent losses.
The games fans point out are 2012/2014 Alabama, Clemson, 2013 UGA, 2013 Ole Miss, and Notre Dame.
With the exception of 2013 UGA, LSU's offense had trouble driving down the field and scoring touchdowns.
2012 Alabama: 3 points in the first half, 17 total
Clemson: Struggled to run the ball, spotted 14 points, only scored 24
Ole Miss: Shutout in the first half, 3 picks by Mett
2014 Alabama: Less than 80 yards passing, 13 points scored (3 off a short field)
Notre Dame: 28 points scored, 3 on explosive plays (100-yd KO return, 79 yard pass, 89 yard run).
The average of the unrefined scores from these 5 games is 21.2 points per game, which is unacceptable given LSU's resources.
LSU's offense should be good enough to cover for the defense those few times that Chavis's defense doesn't hold the opponent under 3 touchdowns.
LSU can't always count on winning a low scoring game.
On another note, Chavis's defense kept LSU in all of the 2009 losses, both 2010 losses, both 2012 losses, 2013 Ole Miss, 2014 Arkansas, and the Notre Dame game (believe it or not). The Mississippi State and Auburn games would have been more competitive if LSU's offense had kept their defense off the field. Not only will a defense get physically tired from being on the field against an uptempo or physical offense for most of a half or game, the defense might also get psychologically tired if they determine that their offense won't give them much if any help.
I don't have enough room to detail all the games that Chavis's defenses have won or helped win for LSU. The number is far greater than the number of games LSU's offense has won in the past 6 seasons.
No one should expect one's defense to play a complete 4 quarter game if the offense isn't held to the same standard. Both are essential to consistently fielding a championship caliber team.
Thanks for making more sense than half of our own fanbase.
Lot of pumpers are jumping to pin this on Chavis to deflect from shitty arse Miles and his terrible offense.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:32 pm to Cumulonimbus
Well, the offense had 450 yards and scored 28 pts.
ND offense had a TOP of 37 minutes to LSU'S 23.
So, is it the O's fault or the D's fault or is it both? Or was it the fake that failed and cost 3 points, the exact amount lsu lost by?
ND offense had a TOP of 37 minutes to LSU'S 23.
So, is it the O's fault or the D's fault or is it both? Or was it the fake that failed and cost 3 points, the exact amount lsu lost by?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:52 pm to Cumulonimbus
Spare me that novel about LSU scoring more points. We all know LSU's offense sucks. But in the games you cited, LSU's shitty offense scored enough to win or go to overtime and Chavis' shitty 2 minute defense repeatedly failed. That's on Chavis.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:54 pm to Cumulonimbus
Someone posted that 6 of LSU's last 11 losses occurred on the final drive. That sounds about right.
As someone who's watched LSU for decades, the defense has been a problem the past three years, It's time to do something different.
As someone who's watched LSU for decades, the defense has been a problem the past three years, It's time to do something different.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:55 pm to Cumulonimbus
Excellent points.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:56 pm to Cumulonimbus
Just a reminder for everyone: Chavis leaving still does not solve our terrible offensive problems.
I'm not sure why the 'good riddance' train for Chavis is as popular as it is.
I'm not sure why the 'good riddance' train for Chavis is as popular as it is.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:03 pm to Cumulonimbus
it is a huge blow to the program, at least perception wise.
anyone who thinks there isn't more to this than money is nuts. LSU is building a 7 mill dollar gymnastics practice facility. TAF donate 44 million last season alone. it isn't about money.
he's probably just tired of carrying Miles' Little Giant offense. the one year added to his contract being the controversy is a laugh riot.
I just think it's funny he's joining Sumlin for a 400k raise. the aggies are basically saying sumlin is les at best, so they have to spend 1.7 mill to cover his ineptitude. we know the feeling, aggies. having a mediocre coach at the helm locked in his contract is an awful feeling
anyone who thinks there isn't more to this than money is nuts. LSU is building a 7 mill dollar gymnastics practice facility. TAF donate 44 million last season alone. it isn't about money.
he's probably just tired of carrying Miles' Little Giant offense. the one year added to his contract being the controversy is a laugh riot.
I just think it's funny he's joining Sumlin for a 400k raise. the aggies are basically saying sumlin is les at best, so they have to spend 1.7 mill to cover his ineptitude. we know the feeling, aggies. having a mediocre coach at the helm locked in his contract is an awful feeling
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:29 pm to Cumulonimbus
Not tonight, Einstein.
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