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re: Leave TCU and Baylor Out!
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:40 pm to corndawg85
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:40 pm to corndawg85
It's not the fricking players' faults.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:43 pm to corndawg85
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Matt Moscona said it best this past week. The Big 12 Commissioner is a retard, they have 10 teams and claim to having one true champion. They came out earlier in the week and stated that if both TCU and Baylor won, which they did, then both would be co-conference champs. It should be Alabama, Oregon, Ohio State, and FSU. Leave the retards in the Big 12 out for not crowning a champion.
This is not some new concept. Every conference without a 2 division split has co-champions. The AAC has 3 co-champions. Tiebreakers like Head to Head are for bowl tie ins but they are still co-champions
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:49 pm to corndawg85
Meh, leave out Fla State before Baylor or TCU. Just because they're undefeated, barely, doesn't mean they're a top 4 team, which they are not.
Posted on 12/6/14 at 11:58 pm to Arkla Missy
Fla St is the undefeated, defending BCS Champ, who just happened to break The Streak last year. I know its supposed to be based on this year only but I think they deserve a little off-the-books love.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:00 am to Arkla Missy
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Leave TCU and Baylor Out! Meh, leave out Fla State before Baylor or TCU. Just because they're undefeated, barely, doesn't mean they're a top 4 team, which they are not.
I disagree. When the defending national champion was undefeated last year and is undefeated this year, you have to give them the shot to defend the title. They should probably be seeded #1 because of it.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:33 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:02 am to corndawg85
I agree that I want them left out because the commissioner ignored bylaws and playing games. I will laugh if both miss out.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:02 am to DaleDenton
No one is scared of BU. tOSU had a better record vs a higher SOS. Seems simple enough to me.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:04 am to MrAUTigers
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MrAUTigers Leave TCU and Baylor Out! I don't get all of the Ohio State love. They play in the weakest of the Power 5 conferences. They lost to a 6-6 Va. Tech on their home field. They do not have a more impressive resume than either TCU OR Baylor.
They played under the pressure of a true conf championship game and delivered in a big way. Defeated Wisconsin and Michigan State. Big 10 is stronger than Big XII in my opinion.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:07 am to Alphaman
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When the defending national champion was undefeated last year and is undefeated last year
wut?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:11 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Once again Texas fricks the Big X11.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:12 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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wut?
1) FSU won it all last year
2) FSU went undefeated last year
3) FSU is undefeated this year
They MUST be in the final 4 and should be the #1 seed.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:15 am to Alphaman
Oh that is much different than what you said the first time. Of course FSU will be in but they will be ranked 3rd is all.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:33 am to shinerfan
They are barely undefeated, and probably should have been beaten in at least 3 games this season, and their conference isn't exactly the toughest. They barely beat GA Tech tonight while everyone else blew out their opponents. ... W-L record should not be the lone factor, or even the most weighted in determining the top 4. Strength of conference, strength of schedule, OOC games all should be equally considered. ... At this moment, I believe there are at least 4 teams who would beat Fla St. They're a top 6 team, not a top 4, imo. And this is exactly the reason this faux "playoff" system is crap. There should be no less than 6 teams involved & preferably 8, with all conference winners included, if the true intention is to as objectively as possible determine the national champion.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:35 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:36 am to corndawg85
Big 12 is a better conference.
TCU has a top 6 loss vs. a V.T. 6-6 loss.
TCU beat Minnesota 30-7 OSU beat Minnesota 31-24.
If the committee is fair and true to the metrics TCU gets in.
TCU has a top 6 loss vs. a V.T. 6-6 loss.
TCU beat Minnesota 30-7 OSU beat Minnesota 31-24.
If the committee is fair and true to the metrics TCU gets in.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:36 am to corndawg85
Ohio State:
vs. Navy (6-5)* 34-17
Virginia Tech (3-5 ACC, 6-6) 21-35
Kent State (1-6 MAC, 2-9) 66-0
---BYE---
Cincinnati (6-1 AAC, 9-3) 50-28
@ Maryland (4-4 B1G, 7-5) 52-24
---BYE---
Rutgers (3-5 B1G, 7-5) 56-17
@ Penn State (2-6 B1G, 6-6) 31-24
Illinois (3-5 B1G, 6-6) 55-14
@ #8 Michigan State (7-1 B1G, 10-2) 49-37
@ Minnesota (5-3 B1G, 8-4) 31-24
Indiana (1-7 B1G, 4-8) 42-27
Michigan (3-5 B1G, 5-7) 42-28
vs. #13 Wisconsin (7-1 B1G, 10-3)** 59-0
*Baltimore
**B1GCG in Indianapolis
TCU:
Samford (FCS) 48-14
---BYE---
Minnesota (5-3 B1G, 8-4) 30-7
---BYE---
@ SMU (1-7 AAC, 1-11) 56-0
#20 Oklahoma (5-4 Big XII, 8-4) 37-33
@ #6 Baylor (8-1 Big XII, 11-1) 58-61
Oklahoma State (4-5 Big XII, 6-6) 42-9
Texas Tech (2-7 Big XII, 4-8) 82-27
@ West Virginia (5-4 Big XII, 7-5) 31-30
#9 Kansas State (7-2 Big XII, 9-3) 41-20
@ Kansas (1-8 Big XII, 3-9) 34-30
---BYE---
@ Texas (5-4 Big XII, 6-6) 48-10
Iowa State (0-9, 2-10) 55-3
Baylor:
SMU (1-7 AAC, 1-11) 45-0
Northwestern State (FCS) 70-6
@ Buffalo (3-4 MAC, 5-6) 63-21
---BYE---
@ Iowa State (0-9 Big XII, 2-10) 49-28
@ Texas (5-4 Big XII, 6-6) 28-7
#3 TCU (8-1 Big XII, 11-1) 61-58
@ West Virginia (5-4 Big XII, 7-5) 27-41
----BYE---
Kansas (1-8 Big XII, 3-9) 60-14
@ #20 Oklahoma (5-4 Big XII, 8-4) 48-14
---BYE---
Oklahoma State (4-5 Big XII, 6-6) 49-28
vs. Texas Tech (2-7 Big XII, 4-8)* 48-46
#9 Kansas State (7-2 Big XII, 9-3) 38-27
*Arlington
vs. Navy (6-5)* 34-17
Virginia Tech (3-5 ACC, 6-6) 21-35
Kent State (1-6 MAC, 2-9) 66-0
---BYE---
Cincinnati (6-1 AAC, 9-3) 50-28
@ Maryland (4-4 B1G, 7-5) 52-24
---BYE---
Rutgers (3-5 B1G, 7-5) 56-17
@ Penn State (2-6 B1G, 6-6) 31-24
Illinois (3-5 B1G, 6-6) 55-14
@ #8 Michigan State (7-1 B1G, 10-2) 49-37
@ Minnesota (5-3 B1G, 8-4) 31-24
Indiana (1-7 B1G, 4-8) 42-27
Michigan (3-5 B1G, 5-7) 42-28
vs. #13 Wisconsin (7-1 B1G, 10-3)** 59-0
*Baltimore
**B1GCG in Indianapolis
TCU:
Samford (FCS) 48-14
---BYE---
Minnesota (5-3 B1G, 8-4) 30-7
---BYE---
@ SMU (1-7 AAC, 1-11) 56-0
#20 Oklahoma (5-4 Big XII, 8-4) 37-33
@ #6 Baylor (8-1 Big XII, 11-1) 58-61
Oklahoma State (4-5 Big XII, 6-6) 42-9
Texas Tech (2-7 Big XII, 4-8) 82-27
@ West Virginia (5-4 Big XII, 7-5) 31-30
#9 Kansas State (7-2 Big XII, 9-3) 41-20
@ Kansas (1-8 Big XII, 3-9) 34-30
---BYE---
@ Texas (5-4 Big XII, 6-6) 48-10
Iowa State (0-9, 2-10) 55-3
Baylor:
SMU (1-7 AAC, 1-11) 45-0
Northwestern State (FCS) 70-6
@ Buffalo (3-4 MAC, 5-6) 63-21
---BYE---
@ Iowa State (0-9 Big XII, 2-10) 49-28
@ Texas (5-4 Big XII, 6-6) 28-7
#3 TCU (8-1 Big XII, 11-1) 61-58
@ West Virginia (5-4 Big XII, 7-5) 27-41
----BYE---
Kansas (1-8 Big XII, 3-9) 60-14
@ #20 Oklahoma (5-4 Big XII, 8-4) 48-14
---BYE---
Oklahoma State (4-5 Big XII, 6-6) 49-28
vs. Texas Tech (2-7 Big XII, 4-8)* 48-46
#9 Kansas State (7-2 Big XII, 9-3) 38-27
*Arlington
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:37 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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Big 12 is a better conference.
TCU has a top 6 loss vs. a V.T. 6-6 loss.
TCU beat Minnesota 30-7 OSU beat Minnesota 31-24.
If the committee is fair and true to the metrics TCU gets in.
Being fair and true though, TCU didn't win their conference.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:39 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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If the committee is fair and true to the metrics TCU gets in.
Being fair and true TCU is 2nd in the Big 12. Big 12 Bylaws make Baylor the league champion if their commissioner is being fair and true that is.
eta: Korin beat me to it
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:40 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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Big 12 is a better conference.
TCU has a top 6 loss vs. a V.T. 6-6 loss.
TCU beat Minnesota 30-7 OSU beat Minnesota 31-24.
If the committee is fair and true to the metrics TCU gets in.
Agreed. Everyone is making such a big deal about the head to head, but I promise the committee is not just learning about this loss, and yet they still ranked TCU ahead of not only Baylor, but an undefeated FSU. That should tell you how much they like TCU, and just how much that head to head really means.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:06 am to Korin
Wrong, TCU won their conference.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:09 am to S.E.C. Crazy
I could give a dam about a conference title as bad as the Big 10 is.
Anyone that says OSU'S schedule is anywhere near as difficult as TCU's is off his rocker.
Anyone that says OSU'S schedule is anywhere near as difficult as TCU's is off his rocker.
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