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2014 Ole Miss/Miss St. vs. 2011 Bama/LSU

Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:56 am
Posted by BamaDoc14
Member since Nov 2013
2559 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:56 am
I've seen countless times over the past couple weeks that the Ole Miss and Miss St. defenses are on par with those of 2011 Alabama and LSU. It's laughable. Let's take a closer look.

QB: Dak Prescott > AJ McCarron
RB: Josh Robinson < Trent Richardson/Eddie Lacy
WR: Laquon Treadwell > Reuben Randle
WR: DeRunya Wilson < Odell Beckham Jr.
TE: Evan Engram > DeAngelo Peterson
LT: Laremy Tunsil > Barrett Jones
LG: Ben Beckwith < Chance Warmack
C: Dillon Day < WIlliam Vlachos
RG: Justin Malone < Will Blackwell
RT: Fahn Cooper < D.J. Fluker

DE: Preston Smith < Sam Montgomery
DT: Robert Nkemdiche >Jesse Williams
DT: Chris Jones > Michael Brockers
DE: C.J. Johnson < Barkevious Mingo
LB: Serderius Bryant < Dont'a Hightower
LB: Bernardrick McKinney < C.J. Mosley
LB: D.T. Shackelford < Courtney Upshaw/Kevin Minter
CB: Senquez Golson < Morris Claiborne
CB: Will Redmond < Tyrann Mathieu
FS: Tony Connor < Eric Reid
SS: Cody Prewitt < Mark Barron

Team Defenses:
2011 Alabama: 8.2 pts/game, 184 yards/game
2011 LSU: 11.3 pts/game, 262 yards/game
2014 Ole Miss: 10.6 pts/game, 291 yards/game
2014 Miss. St.: 20.0 pts/game, 429 yards/game

Just to put those defenses in perspective, Ole Miss is an elite defense this year and has given up almost as many yard through 7 games as Alabama did in 13.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26651 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:58 am to
quote:

DE: Preston Smith < Sam Montgomery
DT: Robert Nkemdiche >Jesse Williams
DT: Chris Jones > Michael Brockers
DE: C.J. Johnson < Barkevious Mingo
LB: Serderius Bryant < Dont'a Hightower
LB: Bernardrick McKinney < C.J. Mosley
LB: D.T. Shackelford < Courtney Upshaw/Kevin Minter
CB: Senquez Golson < Morris Claiborne
CB: Will Redmond < Tyrann Mathieu
FS: Tony Connor < Eric Reid
SS: Cody Prewitt < Mark Barron


JESUS CHRIST AT ALL THAT TALENT
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:59 am
Posted by bherm1988
Shreveport, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
2755 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:00 pm to
Nobody on the Mississippi defenses would start for LSU/ Bama in 2011. And that's not a knock.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:00 pm to
Ole Miss and State are both very good, maybe even national title worthy.

2011 Alabama and LSU were 2 of the 5 best teams of the last 10 years and certainly 2 of the 4 or 5 best defenses of the last 10 years.
Posted by Stan Gable
Memphis
Member since Oct 2014
584 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:01 pm to
Dont even try and compare Dak to A.J. A.J. has too many wins and too many rings. GTFOH with that shite.
Posted by RattyBlowfish
Member since Sep 2014
2947 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:11 pm to
McKinney > Mosley
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

LB: Bernardrick McKinney < C.J. Mosley


lol no

However, let's go back to the initial point of the post -

quote:

I've seen countless times over the past couple weeks that the Ole Miss and Miss St. defenses are on par with those of 2011 Alabama and LSU.


Link, pls.
Posted by Sterling Archer
Austin
Member since Aug 2012
7364 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

DT: Chris Jones > Michael Brockers


Don't even agree with this one.
Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Team Defenses:
2011 Alabama: 8.2 pts/game, 184 yards/game
2011 LSU: 11.3 pts/game, 262 yards/game
2014 Ole Miss: 10.6 pts/game, 291 yards/game
2014 Miss. St.: 20.0 pts/game, 429 yards/game


What about offenses?

2011 Alabama: 34.8 pts/game, 429.6 yards/game
2011 LSU: 35.7 pts/game, 355.1 yards/game
2014 Ole Miss: 35.6 pts/game, 433.3 yards/game
2014 Miss. St.: 41.8 pts/game, 529.7 yards/game

MSU may be a bunch of no-name players outside of Dak, but the combination of those players is pretty damn good.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

2011 LSU: 11.3 pts/game, 262 yards/game


What makes this so impressive is some of the offenses LSU played that year.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19456 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

2011 Alabama: 8.2 pts/game, 184 yards/game
2011 LSU: 11.3 pts/game, 262 yards/game
2014 Ole Miss: 10.6 pts/game, 291 yards/game
2014 Miss. St.: 20.0 pts/game, 429 yards/game

Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

DT: Chris Jones > Michael Brockers

Idk
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

DE: Preston Smith < Sam Montgomery
DT: Robert Nkemdiche >Jesse Williams
DT: Chris Jones > Michael Brockers
DE: C.J. Johnson < Barkevious Mingo
LB: Serderius Bryant < Dont'a Hightower
LB: Bernardrick McKinney < C.J. Mosley
LB: D.T. Shackelford < Courtney Upshaw/Kevin Minter
CB: Senquez Golson < Morris Claiborne
CB: Will Redmond < Tyrann Mathieu
FS: Tony Connor < Eric Reid
SS: Cody Prewitt < Mark Barron

Now, switch the guys you picked defensively to represent LSU/Alabama with the next guys and compare it again. For example, put Brandon Taylor instead of Mark Barron, Bennie Logan for Jesse Williams, etc.

I bet the LSU/Alabama defense would still be just as good.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Gotta have DeZeier
Turner Field
Member since Dec 2011
3011 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:50 pm to
How do yall have this much free time?
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31793 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by REBEL5 AC
Member since Sep 2012
14737 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

DE: Preston Smith < Sam Montgomery

quote:

LB: Serderius Bryant < Dont'a Hightower
quote:

CB: Senquez Golson < Morris Claiborne

quote:

SS: Cody Prewitt < Mark Barron


God no to all of these
Posted by MasCervezas
Ocean Springs
Member since Jul 2013
7958 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Miss St. defenses are on par with those of 2011 Alabama and LSU.


nobody said this
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:15 pm to
Just let them have their day.......they have no idea how to win with class and dignity...and have never been in this situation...of course they are over-reacting to a very large degree. In the case of OM, Karma is going to get them bigtime.

I think both teams will end with multiple losses this year, sooner rather than later....the pressure is mounting and they haven't been there. In the case of Ole Miss.....they better hope the players don't have the same attitude as the fans...otherwise, it could get ugly in baton rouge.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37961 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:16 pm to
OM hasn't given up more than 20 points in a game so far this season

The same cannot be said for 2011 LSU.
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Just to put those defenses in perspective, Ole Miss is an elite defense this year and has given up almost as many yard through 7 games as Alabama did in 13.


2011 Alabama didn't have to contend with ATM's garbage, though. 400 yards of offense in garbage time.
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