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re: Nick Ruffin Hit
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:03 pm to RandySavage
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:03 pm to RandySavage
Was not a terrible call but a terrible rule.
Call was perfectly made according to the rules
Call was perfectly made according to the rules
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:03 pm to RandySavage
Okay?? It was targeting by rule bro. Nothing anyone could do ab it. So really it's a mute point.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:07 pm to RandySavage
quote:The real blame lies with Harris. He hung that poor bastard out to dry with that shitty throw.
It was a terrible call but I blame the rules more than the officials.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:07 pm to Aubie Spr96
Twas bullshite. Refs are very PC lately. I thought it was just a football play.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:27 pm to GenesChin
Just watched it again. It's total bs.
There is nothing the defender can do there unless you want him to dive and take out the guys knees. He hits him with the shoulder and despite the fact the receiver is falling down and nearly on his knees still the hit is right under the chin. (Not the head).
It's such a terrible rule and it's totally unfair to the kids out there trying to play football.
There is nothing the defender can do there unless you want him to dive and take out the guys knees. He hits him with the shoulder and despite the fact the receiver is falling down and nearly on his knees still the hit is right under the chin. (Not the head).
It's such a terrible rule and it's totally unfair to the kids out there trying to play football.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:28 pm to Pavoloco83
In the stadium I thought it looked like a good football play. I texted my oldest son to ask if it looked clean on tv review. He said "I thought it was bs because his shoulder looked like it made contact below the neck but the way that dudes head whipped I can see why they called it. They started concussion test on the side line so I bet they are both out of the rest of this game". Refs are going to protect these kids and that is the rule these days.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 9:37 pm to RandySavage
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It's such a terrible rule and it's totally unfair to the kids out there trying to play football.
Aregue with the rule but the penalty and review were accurately called.
Considering how many people are being seriously injured and having longterm effects to their lives due to concussions, it is a smart rule. It is made so that the game can stay around in the future.
In about 5 years when most of the kids coming through have played this way through Middle School, High School now college, it will be second nature and rarely seen.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:11 pm to GenesChin
Don't care if it was correct application of the rule or not.
It was either a bullshite call or a bullshite rule. I'm certain of that. And if it's the rule, we need to fix it ASAP.
It was either a bullshite call or a bullshite rule. I'm certain of that. And if it's the rule, we need to fix it ASAP.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:13 pm to FearlessFreep
Also, if player safety is really #1 priority, outlaw crossing routes, and escort the OC off the field whenever these hits occur.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:16 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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It was the right call. He hit him too high.
Please don't post on things that are outside of your level of testosteronal minimum. Your ****ry is evident.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 10:41 pm to greygoose
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Your ****ry is evident.
What? We can say curse words like damn shite count and frick. It's ok. Let it out.
And bitch too, we can say bitch.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:57 am to GenesChin
My issue with the rule lies more in the fact that the defensive player is at the mercy of the offense. If the offensive player decides to duck or lower his head as the tackle is being made, then the defensive player is screwed because he's now "targeting" the head or neck area. Defender are lining up a hit, then the location is being changed mid-tackle from a duck or lowered head and there is nothing they can do. And offensive player can lead with there head, but a defensive player can't? Just doesn't make sense to me.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 5:38 am to GenesChin
Was a great old school hit. Not so much a new school one
He targeted a defenseless receiver. Which is probably what he was taught when he started playing football.
He targeted a defenseless receiver. Which is probably what he was taught when he started playing football.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 6:21 am to LanierSpots
quote:Correct. CEJ was on the locker room show after the game and he said that he doesn't know how you are supposed to teach a kid to play as a safety if that type of a hit gets you thrown out of the game.
Was a great old school hit. Not so much a new school one
Also, from what Paul Ellen and Gabe Gross were saying on the postgame, that although the NCAA rule will allow Ruffin back next week, the play will be reviewed by the league office in B'ham and they could suspend him for part, or even all, of the MSU game as well.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:10 am to LanierSpots
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He targeted a defenseless receiver.
WTF is "targeting" anyway? Every tackle that is made in a game the ball carrier was targeted. That's what the defense does.
Ruffin led with his shoulder and despite the receiver almost having his knees on the ground he still didn't hit him in the head and for that he gets kicked out of the game?
It's ridiculous and like I said, it's not fair to these kids playing defense.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 7:12 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:28 am to RandySavage
Sorry to say, but that was a textbook targeting penalty to me. He hit the receiver high, and although it was with his shoulder, it doesn't matter. The hit appeared quite late as well. Ruffin didn't start leaning into the hit until after it was apparent the receiver wouldn't catch the ball. The reaction by Holsey right away tells all. He knew he was gone.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:34 am to AUNashville
Targeting happens when a defender lays out on a hit before its apparent the hit needs to happen. For instance, a DB might assume a receiver is going to catch a pass, and begin a violent tackle before the ball even gets to the receiver, however, sometimes this is necessary if there is separation.
Targeting should be called on the scenario above only if the defender lands the hit high. It seems though there is a bit of variance, and targeting can be called on any hit that is landed high.
Targeting should be called on the scenario above only if the defender lands the hit high. It seems though there is a bit of variance, and targeting can be called on any hit that is landed high.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 7:36 am to RandySavage
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despite the receiver almost having his knees on the ground
You realize the receiver was trying to grab a ball that was overthrown and in no way was having "his knees on the ground". If the receiver was standing straight up he gets pounded in the helmet not the neck area
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It's ridiculous and like I said, it's not fair to these kids playing defense
It is pretty ridiculous considering how you are asking the kids to do something and then handcuffing their ability to do it.
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Please don't post on things that are outside of your level of testosteronal minimum. Your ****ry is evident.
The rules are clear and he went high. There is no doubt about it that he did not even try and hit him in an acceptable region
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It was either a bullshite call or a bullshite rule. I'm certain of that. And if it's the rule, we need to fix it ASAP.
Rule won't be changed and the call was made properly. Bitch all you want but when it happens to AU I'm sure you'll be hollering for a targeting call
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:05 am to Warfarer
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Should have been a 15 yard personal foul but not an ejection.
This.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:01 am to GenesChin
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You realize the receiver was trying to grab a ball that was overthrown and in no way was having "his knees on the ground". If the receiver was standing straight up he gets pounded in the helmet not the neck area
Yep and then he was off balance and falling toward the ground when he got hit. If he had been standing up he would have got hit in the chest. It was a perfect hit.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:02 am
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