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Spurrier Unlocked: Saban is a Great Recruiter, Not a Great Coach
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:40 pm
Have Spurrier's shots at Saban's recruiting rankings and his need to overwork stemmed from his belief that Saban needed a school like Alabama where he could out recruit everyone to mask his deficiencies as a coach? Spurrier even went so far today as to name Gus Malzahn as one of the "great" SEC coaches while declining to give Saban the same designation.
When you think about the 2010 Iron Bowl, 2011 Bama vs LSU, and 2013 Iron Bowl, all three games exemplify when Saban was unable to out-talent the opponent and his coaching abilities failed to close out the game. When Saban is unable to out-talent opponents, does he fall apart?
When you think about the 2010 Iron Bowl, 2011 Bama vs LSU, and 2013 Iron Bowl, all three games exemplify when Saban was unable to out-talent the opponent and his coaching abilities failed to close out the game. When Saban is unable to out-talent opponents, does he fall apart?
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:42 pm
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:41 pm to undecided
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:41 pm to undecided
Top notch recruiter, good coach
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:41 pm to undecided
quote:One could argue in favor of this...
When Saban is unable to out-talent opponents, does he fall apart?
Then again, recruiting is part of the game, and that's one reason Nick Saban's teams are rarely out-talented by other teams.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:41 pm to NBamaAlum
Sec Rant ur I mean BAMA board
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:42 pm to undecided
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When you think about the 2010 Iron Bowl, 2011 Bama vs LSU, and 2013 Iron Bowl, all three games exemplify when Saban was unable to out-talent the opponent and his coaching abilities failed to close out the game. When Saban is unable to out-talent opponents, does he fall apart?
Interesting thoughts, but I give this a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a reasonable discussion on here.
It's not like he was Mr. America at MSU or did anything worht a shite in Miami. Those two teams don't have a recruiting base like LSU and Bama.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:42 pm to undecided
Obsessed
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:43 pm to undecided
Talent beats coaching in college nine times out of 10. Or 11/12 out of 13/14 for Bama.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:44 pm to LesMiles BFF
Saban has long been guilty of getting a lead and sitting on it, letting far inferior teams hang around by going conservative actually somewhat similar to miles in that aspect
I guess it's more of the approach, it's very anti-spurrier at UF
I guess it's more of the approach, it's very anti-spurrier at UF
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to undecided
Every coach has their own strategy to win and overcome deficiencies. I don't think Saban is an elite or even excellent gameday coach. However, he overcomes this by being the best recruiter and program manager in the nation.
Spurrier is the opposite. Elite gameday coach, but lazy recruiter. Kind of like Petrino at Arkansas.
Spurrier is the opposite. Elite gameday coach, but lazy recruiter. Kind of like Petrino at Arkansas.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to LesMiles BFF
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2011 Bama vs LSU
To be fair, wouldn't that mean he defeated an equally talented team 21-0?
Was 2009 Florida an untalented team? 32-13 isn't a good win either? Or 2012 UGA?
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Miami
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recruiting base
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to undecided
I don't think he ever said that Saban wasn't a great coach.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:46 pm to undecided
Everyday is Bama day on tSECr!! 
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:46 pm to TTsTowel
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One could argue in favor of this...
See 2008 Georgia, 2009 Florida, 2009 Texas, 2011 LSU, 2012 Georgia
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:47 pm to undecided
Does anyone that is knowledgeable about football really think saban is a great coach?
My previous post on the subject:
My previous post on the subject:
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Anyway, saban will never be anywhere close to one of the best. He is an above average coach and that is about it. Great defensive mind, nothing offensively and sorta a game manger on the sideline.
He was about a .500 coach for years at Michigan state and with the dolphins. And his first year at bama.
He is an excellent program builder at the college level but has also done that at two schools where anyone can win at. Especially at bama with the highest player and coach bankroll to work with anywhere.
Give him equal talent to his opponent, his old school conservative style wins at about a .600 clip. Above average, far from special.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to undecided
A great coach wins. Period. Saban wins more than anyone. Ergo Saban is a great coach. Spurrier (and I guess you) come across as childish here trying to downplay Saban's status as one of the great coaches.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
fricking lol
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Interesting thoughts, but I give this a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a reasonable discussion on here.
It's not like he was Mr. America at MSU or did anything worht a shite in Miami. Those two teams don't have a recruiting base like LSU and Bama.
Think about when Saban and Tuberville were playing each other at LSU and Auburn respectively. Tub's thought (and probably still thinks) he was better than Saban and his players bought in. Gus has brought that belief back to Auburn and the end result was a very evenly matched Iron Bowl.
Coaches and teams that are intimidated by the Bama mystique will get destroyed but if you play Bama mano y mano you'll win everytime. They're essentially bullies who crumble when someone stands up to them
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:48 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Saban is absolutely a great coach. Recruiting IS an aspect of coaching after all.
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