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re: Which SEC West program is going to fall to mediocrity by 2020: LSU, Bama, or AU?

Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:42 pm to
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I think you just TT'd on your self, go get ya TT towel bro.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:47 pm to
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Were Auburn fans happy with the results in the BCSNC Title game against Fla. St.? Auburn will always be known as the team that didn't have the chest to keep the SEC BCSNC Title streak alive.


AU wasn't the first SEC Team to lose the BCSNCG.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:49 pm to
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TTsTowel
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You have a long way to go with rustling.

That many posts and I had you foaming in two posts.
Sad.
Posted by Tiger-kev
Mobile, AL
Member since Feb 2005
528 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:51 pm to
I'm not sold on A&M and Sumlin being a power. Since when have they won anything of significance??
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:54 pm to
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Auburn will always be known as the team that didn't have the chest to keep the SEC BCSNC Title streak alive.

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AU wasn't the first SEC Team to lose the BCSNCG.

We kept it in the SEC family as much as it hurt. Auburn lost it to the beaver/crab burglar from the ACC.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:54 pm to
Post count boom?

You might need to take a few lessons from Buford Puser with flaming, trolling and rustling.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
27519 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:01 pm to
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You can arguably say LSU has near exclusive access to LA talent and it has a very strong presence in east Texas. I think it'll be harder for Alabama to sustain 2 major programs long term...especially if Tennessee can get its shite together and recruit in AL more. I say AU falls a bit.


We have a nice pipeline in Florida and we have Louisiana to ourselves for the most part. We will also still have our Texas pipelines also. The team TAMU will hurt most is Oklahoma, who gets most of their good recruits from Texas.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:09 pm to
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We kept it in the SEC family as much as it hurt.


:rotflmao:
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:14 pm to
Well since history repeats itself and Auburn and Bama have had their drop offs recently its LSU's turn. Chavis retiring will probably be when it starts really falling through.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:22 pm to
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College football is extremely cyclical. Teams that have no business fizzling out can spiral downhill out of nowhere. It's the nature of the game. Examples: Notre Dame, Texas, Michigan, USC, Bama a few years ago... It happens.


No. I hate how people say this. What happens is sometimes several thingz, or one thing.

-Your division or conference gets tougher
-Your coach retires, gets older and less productive, or moves on to another job (likely the NFL,)
-A scandal or major violation occurs
-A great OC or DC leaves and the HC can't replace them with the right guy (this usually leads to firing of HC, and could send team through years of bad HC hires)

Each decline is easily explained. It just doesn't happen out of nowhere. Some program rises can be the cause of a great player or players. Some a great HC, OC, or DC hire. Others can be the fall of another program that cause this program to get better recruits and easier wins.

Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:29 pm to
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No. I hate how people say this. What happens is sometimes several thingz, or one thing.


But one or a combination of those things eventually happens to all programs, which is why they are they are cyclical.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 9:30 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
27519 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:35 pm to
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I'm not sold on A&M and Sumlin being a power. Since when have they won anything of significance??


Let's just say, with the way he's recruiting and how he can field an offense, one good DC hire will make them a powerhouse. You also have to give it time. They are in the SEC West which is the toughest division in CFB and actually competing. Yes Manziel was great, yes Evans was too, but this is the same offense Sumlin ran when he took Sam Bradford to having the best true freshman season by a QB ever. Same one he ran with Keenum. TAMU was pretty much mediocre with mediocre talent. He's looking to beef up both sides of the program, and it's only a matter of time. Give it two yesrs, and they'll be competing for the West which is basically the quarterfinals or the CFB Playoff.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:40 pm to
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Before you crown A&M for the foreseeable future, let's see a season with Sumlin without Manziel



agree

bc frankly frankly Miles, Gus and Saban would have all won a championship with Manziel.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:41 pm to
Alabama due to their propensity to hire mediocre coaches (Saban will be retired at the lake or in the NFL by 2020). They are one for their last five in hiring quality coaches.

Auburn will be an 8-11 win team during the rest of Malzahn's tenure.

LSU will be the same team they are now.

A&M will be down this year at about 7-5 or 8-4 then jump to a perennial 10-win team.

State will be about the same as they are now as well.

Arkansas will be the cellar-dweller until their next coach gets enough recruiting classes to get his system in place and can win games.

Ole Miss will get the Death Penalty.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
43009 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 9:42 pm to
We're too close to ATL. During our worst years, we still had a top 15 recruiting class.
Posted by aggiegreg93
Austin, Tx
Member since Jul 2012
1013 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:13 pm to
I'll just say it's gonna be fun to watch!
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17818 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:57 pm to
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Times Auburn has had back to back ten win seasons since 1960? Once.

Times LSU had back to back ten win seasons before 2006?

None.

Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
11203 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:00 pm to
This year LSU will by far be the worst of the 3 but they recruit well and can recover.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:20 pm to
Aubie
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:21 pm to
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This year LSU will by far be the worst of the 3 but they recruit well and can recover.


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