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re: Which SEC West program is going to fall to mediocrity by 2020: LSU, Bama, or AU?

Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:46 pm to
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hat's because of crappy and gutless hiring of HCs. We hired Dubose (who had just one year experience as a DC) because of a freaking fax campaign by the fanbase...a freaking fax campaign. His inexperience allowed the rogue boosters to run the recruiting trail, which landed us on probation. Then we were screwed because no decent coach in their right mind wanted to go through the sanctions, so we had to hire a freaking glorified QBs coach to take the job. Throw in a coward and a drunken fool in between.

Hopefully we learned from our past mistakes when it comes to hiring our HC.



And what happens if you hire Kirby Smart ?
Posted by BayouBengal99
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:54 pm to
ND is a nation wide recruiter, so is Michigan, bama now is also, but bama could stay regional and not drop off the others not so much. Texas, LSU could stay in state except for 3 or 4 recruits a year and dominate. These southwest schools aren't going anywhere. A down year here and there doesn't mean the team is in decline but reloading for the next.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:57 pm to
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ND is a nation wide recruiter, so is Michigan, bama now is also, but bama could stay regional and not drop off the others not so much. Texas, LSU could stay in state except for 3 or 4 recruits a year and dominate. These southwest schools aren't going anywhere. A down year here and there doesn't mean the team is in decline but reloading for the next.


If LSU doesn't contend this year, they would be considered as an underachieving program on the same level as UGA. Three straight years without sniffing a West Championship should be unacceptable.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:00 pm to
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And what happens if you hire Kirby Smart ?

Hopefully we would go after the best available HC.

It all depends on if a top level coach wants to step into Saban's shadow directly after he leaves.

But if we do decide to try and see if Smart can keep Saban's program going (again I hope we don't), as long as he isn't so naive that he lets boosters run our recruiting, he'd be better than Dubose. Smart getting fired after three years won't kill our program, but him getting us on probation would.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 8:01 pm
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:01 pm to
We didn't sniff the West in 2012?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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25901 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:06 pm to
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We didn't sniff the West in 2012?


Two losses and tied with A&M is not the level I would consider Championship play. Follow that up with a loss in the CFB. Were LSU Fans happy with those results ?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Hopefully we would go after the best available HC.

It all depends on if a top level coach wants to step into Saban's shadow directly after he leaves.

But if we do decide to try and see if Smart can keep Saban's program going (again I hope we don't), as long as he isn't so naive that he lets boosters run our recruiting, he'd be better than Dubose. Smart getting fired after three years won't kill our program, but him getting us on probation would.



The trend is toward Offensive Coaches over the next few years. That is why I said this is the critical year for Smart. If his Defense has problems with the HUNH Teams again, the ship might have sailed for him at Bama.
Posted by TheOtherAA
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:19 pm to
Whoever loses their coach first
Posted by BlackCloud
Above It All
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Were LSU Fans happy with those results ?
Very unhappy we didn't win the SEC West this past year knowing we were better than Auburn(see 35-21).

Were Auburn fans happy with the results in the BCSNC Title game against Fla. St.? Auburn will always be known as the team that didn't have the chest to keep the SEC BCSNC Title streak alive.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:26 pm to
Too bad no other SEC team was good enough to get there like Auburn, huh?
Posted by BlackCloud
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Member since Jan 2014
3817 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:27 pm to
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Too bad no other SEC team was lucky enough to get there like Auburn, huh?


There ya go pal. Glad I could help.
Posted by kudzoo
Member since Nov 2011
656 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:27 pm to
History says it won't be Bama.

Neither LSU, auburn or A&M have ever approached Alabama's record as a consistently elite CFB program. Not even close.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:28 pm to
Here we go again.

I didn't expect better from the SECRant, FWIW.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:31 pm to
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Here we go again.

Yep. Go back and read your buddy and his posts.
I see low hanging fruit around here and pluck a piece off the tree. Grow a spine or GTFO of here.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:32 pm to
Without sniffing it? I recall being very close to a west championship and possibly national ship a couple years ago in deathvalley. If LSU wins that game things would of been much diff. That's pretty darn close IMO
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:32 pm to
I've been here through a 3-9 season, bitch. I was here throughout all of the Cam Newton drama and the ATPB thread. You're a little pest in comparison.
Posted by BlackCloud
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
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I've been here through a 3-9 season, bitch. I was here throughout all of the Cam Newton drama and the ATPB thread. You're a little pest in comparison.

All this message board experience and I rustled you in two posts (see low-hanging fruit comments).
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:39 pm to
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Grow a spine or GTFO of here.


New badass on the board...


Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:41 pm to
I think you just TT'd on your self, go get ya TT towel bro. LSU isn't going anywhere that's a bet!! Cam and Les are putting this thing together...... May be taking longer then it should of but who cares? Everyone knows LSU is and will be a power to deal with, ask any coach or opponent of LSU not some butt hurt rival fan show me all those five star recruits committed 4 and 5 years in advance? Pretty sure LSU has a few I can show you.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
91648 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 8:41 pm to
You have a long way to go with rustling.
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