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re: Quotes from coaches around the country on the Bert/Saban proposed rule change
Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:56 pm to YStar
Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:56 pm to YStar
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If it wasn't such a big advantage there wouldn't be this response.
That's nonsense. The response has been because 1) Saban and Bielema snuck in the back door to make their case and nobody else even had a clue this was happening, and 2) they're making this about player safety, which is ludicrous.
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Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:57 pm to magildachunks
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Where did you play past college?
Sorry, I will not share my identity or give information about where I have played.
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And what is the acceptable number of plays that can be run in order to prevent this?
There isn't an acceptable number. There is just a dangerous amount where your body can give. Not just that knee injuries and other weird things are more susceptible.
Football is dangerous, we all know that. However, these kids aren't getting paid like professionals and trust me don't have the development to play 80+ plays each week or every other week.
I am also against extending the playoffs. It is too many games and only an idiot who has never played college ball would make this suggestion. College kids just aren't ready physically for that toll. Even in the league you see rook's come in an start to play poorly into their 8th, 9th, 10th game.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:57 pm to MrAUTigers
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You are making one excuse after another instead of saying what really bothers you about the HUNH O. Your coach struggles mightily against it and you want it limited because if it's not....it will cost your team wins.
Saban pushing this hard in a non-rule making year for one reason I can see: Cam Cameron.
Saban already is worried about Gus and Sumlin. But Cam has stated he would like to integrate the HUNH into LSU's game.
Saban be scared. Very scared.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:58 pm to TheDoc
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I bet you're for the targeting rules too right
Man you're stupid. They have literally nothing to do with one another.
I am against extending the playoffs. I am consistent as a poster who has actually played, started and succeed in college football it is becoming too much. I had other things which held me back as well.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 12:59 pm to TheDoc
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what a pussy
At the end of the day, this is really what it's all about. After the charade of making it out to be this huge safety issue, it really boils down to Nick Saban being tired of getting torched by the HUNH offense.
Auburn, A&M and OU have given his defense complete fits the last couple of years and he's tired of having to deal with it. He spent 9 months developing a gameplan to try and stop A&M and the result was one of the greatest individual offensive performances in history. He realizes now that he cannot consistently stop it no matter how hard he tries and so he's just going to do away with it.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:00 pm to finestfirst79
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he response has been because 1) Saban and Bielema snuck in the back door to make their case and nobody else even had a clue this was happening, and 2) they're making this about player safety, which is ludicrous.
No those are the excuses. The response is over the fear of not being able to compete. At the end of the day these coaches know this can ultimately affect how they feed their family. So naturally they are fighting back.
I've already explained why LSU fans are against it. They can't beat us so they're hoping Ole Miss and Auburn (or Florida) can.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:02 pm to YStar
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No those are the excuses. The response is over the fear of not being able to compete.
ISn't this why Saban and Bielema are doing this? Because they can't compete against these teams?
Oh yeah, here's a little tidbit for you about Saban's Safety worries:
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Former Alabama and current Atlanta wide receiver Julio Jones underwent foot surgery Monday. It was a major blow to the Falcons -- and a possible blemish for the University of Alabama.
As teams debated prospects in the days leading up to the 2013 draft, multiple NFL executives made a similar observation.
Alabama has churned out back-to-back national championships, but a perception exists that it has chewed up some players.
No school is producing more pro prospects than Alabama. Yet it seems no school's players are heading into the NFL with more medical red flags.
Just last year, NFL teams' medical reports revealed that Alabama cornerback Dee Milliner underwent five different surgeries. Some trainers believed that because of the condition of his toes, former Alabama running back Eddie Lacy would not be able to have an extended NFL career. Teams questioned the condition of former Alabama guard Chance Warmack's knees, defensive tackle Jesse Williams' knees and offensive tackle D.J. Fluker's shoulder.
These were the latest, but not the only, medical questions about Alabama players.
Running backs Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram left Alabama with knee issues that followed them into the NFL. Former Alabama cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick battled a recurring knee injury. And Jones' first foot surgery came shortly after the NFL scouting combine, after completing a decorated college career at Alabama.
Now maybe this is all just one big coincidence. No school is turning out more players in a sport that is prone to injury, so some of this is inevitable. But NFL executives believed that having many of the best players in the country squaring off in physically demanding practices and then playing games in the top college football conference took its toll.
And what was beyond question was that many NFL executives noticed the trend last year and were factoring it into the selections they made.
It wasn't as if they were taking Alabama players off their boards, but they were aware that some came with medical risks. Those questions repeatedly were raised before the 2013 NFL draft -- and they will be there again before the 2014 draft.
Seems like he really cares about his player's safety.
This post was edited on 2/15/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:13 pm to magildachunks
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Seems like he really cares about his player's safety.
saban cares about one thing and one thing only, winning. Lets not BS that fact. He wants the game played how he can control it. He will take scholarships away from players, who aren't performing to his liking, so he can bring in an 18 year old and give him a shot. He is a football factory. There is nothing wrong with all of that, well the scholarship thing bothers me, but don't try to play some sympathy card because you are getting out-schemed and out-coached.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:17 pm to YStar
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The response is over the fear of not being able to compete.
And what are Saban and Bielema doing exactly?
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
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And what are Saban and Bielema doing exactly?
They're thinking of the kids.
Why won't you think of the kids?
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:18 pm to magildachunks
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ISn't this why Saban and Bielema are doing this? Because they can't compete against these teams?
We can compete, we just lose to that style every once in a while. I can't speak on Arky.
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Seems like he really cares about his player's safety.
Again, bruh I'm not Saban. I don't like the battering ram full pads two to three days a week college philosophy. I'm not one of these dudes who co-signs anything Saban.
I am speaking out of personal experience. If they pass or don't pass the rule, whatever. I just don't like the idea of that many plays. I also don't like the idea of more games.
These bastards don't care about players. They only care about how much they can make while taking on as little costs, expensive and liability as possible.
I am a BIG supporter of college players getting paid.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:21 pm to YStar
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Again, bruh I'm not Saban. I don't like the battering ram full pads two to three days a week college philosophy.
So maybe Saban should change this before spouting the BS reasoning he is for trying to eliminate HUNH.
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These bastards don't care about players. They only care about how much they can make while taking on as little costs, expensive and liability as possible.
Exactly. Saban only cares about Saban.
Maybe, if you truly believe what you are saying, you should lead the charge in your own fanbase about how Saban does things at Bama. Less physical practices.
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I am a BIG supporter of college players getting paid.
Me too. Has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:28 pm to YStar
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We can compete, we just lose to that style every once in a while.
3 out of the last 18 games isn't "every once in a while". In fact, you've lost to 3 of the last 5 you've played who run the HUNH and in one of the wins you gave up 650 yards and 42 points.
This isn't some minor issue for Saban, it's his Achilles heel.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:30 pm to YStar
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The response is over the fear of not being able to compete.
"The response" has been from coaches all over the country, many of whom do not run HUNH offenses. Oh... these guys have also responded. Even in Alabama and Arkansas, the majority thinks this is stupid.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
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the result was one of the greatest individual offensive performances in history.
Yet Aggie still lost to Bama....Go figure
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:30 pm to YStar
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I am a BIG supporter of college players getting paid.
And this really reveals your true lack of insight and why you shouldn't be taken seriously on any topic.
Nobody who supports paying college football players has really thought it out all the way to its ultimate end. It's an ignorant stance spouted by those who take their opinions from ESPN talking heads.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:31 pm to 14&Counting
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Yet Aggie still lost to Bama....Go figure
The issue here is the HUNH against Saban's defenses. Weak deflection.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:32 pm to magildachunks
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So maybe Saban should change this before spouting the BS reasoning he is for trying to eliminate HUNH.
Again, I am not Saban. I have never said Saban or any others who have been anti-HUNH weren't holding that stance for personal career driven reasons.
No differently than Gus, Sumlin and others being pro-HUNH for personal career driven reasons.
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Exactly. Saban only cares about Saban.
Maybe, if you truly believe what you are saying, you should lead the charge in your own fanbase about how Saban does things at Bama. Less physical practices.
Stupidest thing posted ITT. Saban is too powerful to have a resistance led against in in Tuscaloosa. I feel he will change and adapt, just not as quick as I would like.
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Me too. Has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
It did in the context I brought it up in which you have conveniently deleted.
All this doesn't change the fact all of you guys are scared, all those coaches are scared with this response. It hasn't even been passed yet.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The issue here is the HUNH against Saban's defenses. Weak deflection.
You are the one on here boasting about the mighty JFF and the Aggie Hunh torching Bama.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 1:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
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So what's Bielema's excuse?
Bobby Petrino's defensive players.
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