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Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Arkla Missy
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 5:26 pm to
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A Christian bigot. What else is new?

Your ill-informed, uneducated, sweeping generalization makes your ignorance glaringly obvious.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:30 pm to
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Or are you saying it's ok for some cultures but not others?

I'm asking on what basis you can judge another culture's morality to be right or wrong. This isn't a new question and if you're going to argue for a locus of morality outside of religion, you should probably come up with an answer for it.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:21 am to
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I'm asking on what basis you can judge another culture's morality to be right or wrong


Common sense.

You're just being intentionally obtuse and it's pretty exhausting to tell you the truth.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:31 am to
Common sense isn't a serious answer. Are you saying there was no "common sense" in the US prior to the Emancipation Proclamation?

I'm trying to help you. Your thought system is pretty anemic at the moment. Beef it up.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:49 am to
he is probably correct.

I didn't say "right," but correct.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:50 am to
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Are you saying there was no "common sense" in the US prior to the Emancipation Proclamation?


No, I'm saying people practiced slavery even though it was morally wrong.

This is a really simple concept.
Posted by aslavey
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 12:54 am to
I think the real point is that southerners are fundamentally immoral and it took the more enlightened and morally superior northerners to step in and attempt to save the souls of the misguided. It has been a slow process yet northerners still have hope for their slower southern brethren.
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:11 am to
I think I just read the most amazingly offensive joke of all time
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:11 am to
And this isn't the IM thread
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:14 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 1:16 am to
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This is a really simple concept.

It's not nearly as simple as you think it is. But this is tRant, not Introduction to Epistemology. So rabble rabble, you suck and Manning is GOAT.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 7:49 am to
You never answered my question.

Why do you think slavery is immoral?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 9:54 am to
I think it's immoral because of many reasons.

But the chief reason for me is that because of the innate value of humans as created beings of the Divine, it violates our value to own others or be owned.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:00 am to
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But the chief reason for me is that because of the innate value of humans as created beings of the Divine, it violates our value to own others or be owned.


Then why does God condone slavery so much in the bible?
Posted by aslavey
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:07 am to
The Bible - Man's misinterpretation of your God's inspiration
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:11 am to
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Then why does God condone slavery so much in the bible?

That's a good question. Ancient Greece had a democracy but only male land-owners had a vote. Where was the anti-slavery movement in Ancient Greece? Where was the women's suffrage movement in the Enlightenment? Was all of Ancient Greece immoral? Was the Enlightenment a farce because it didn't immediately push for equal rights for women?

You need to move a little deeper into the question, drop your anti-Bible focus and look at history on a little broader scale.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:29 am to
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That's a good question


That you still haven't answered. You've used a lot of straw men though, case in point:

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Where was the anti-slavery movement in Ancient Greece?


Wild guess but I'm thinking amongst the enslaved.

And you act like there weren't people against human bondage throughout history. Like when you said "did nobody have common sense before the Emancipation Proclamation?"

Ever heard of abolitionists? Underground Railroad ring any bells?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:34 am to
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Ever heard of abolitionists? Underground Railroad ring any bells?

Yes, but where was the Underground Railroad in the Roman Empire? The Underground Railroad is part of the same moral impetus which brought about the Emancipation Proclamation. It wasn't 500 years before it. It was basically concurrent. Your thoughts on this are a mile wide and an inch deep.
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:36 am to
I had sex with a minor one time but I didn't put a ring on it. What a ho she was.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/31/13 at 10:49 am to
Congratulations on having the sex.

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