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Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:04 am to The Spleen
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:04 am to The Spleen
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The only position I'm taking is that it is debatable on whether homosexuality is mentioned in the New Testament. There are many Biblical scholars that claim it is not, just as there are many that claim it is. I really don't care. The greater message is love your neighbor.
Nope. You're just being ignorant and intolerant. Rabble rabble.
/alahunter
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:21 am to deltaland
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Religion set a standard for morality
God gave the Hebrews instructions on how to sell your daughter as a sex slave. You think that's morally right?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 10:59 am to Stonehog
By what basis do you claim it's immoral? (Assuming you are)
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:05 am to the808bass
I think slavery is immoral, I guess that's just me though.
It's not right to own a person as property. God doesn't see anything wrong with it though, so I fail to see deltaland's point about religion being the standard for morality.
It's not right to own a person as property. God doesn't see anything wrong with it though, so I fail to see deltaland's point about religion being the standard for morality.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:12 am to Stonehog
That didn't answer my question.
Eta: unless you're "that's just me" is an epistemological statement, in which case it applies to no one else.
Eta: unless you're "that's just me" is an epistemological statement, in which case it applies to no one else.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:17 am to the808bass
I said it's not right to own a person as property. Do you disagree?
Or are you really asking why slavery is immoral?
Or are you really asking why slavery is immoral?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:18 am to Stonehog
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Or are you really asking why slavery is immoral?
I'm not asking why it's immoral, I'm asking why you know it's immoral?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:20 am to the808bass
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I'm not asking why it's immoral, I'm asking why you know it's immoral?
Because I have a sense of human decency.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:23 am to Stonehog
Ok. I thought your earlier claim that religion wasn't the basis for morality had some thought behind it. I was incorrect. Carry on.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:27 am to the808bass
What?
deltaland said religion was the standard for morality.
The bible promotes slavery.
Slavery is immoral.
See where I'm going with this?
deltaland said religion was the standard for morality.
The bible promotes slavery.
Slavery is immoral.
See where I'm going with this?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:29 am to the808bass
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I'm asking why you know it's immoral?
Why do you know it's immoral?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:43 am to Stonehog
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deltaland said religion was the standard for morality.
That's a pretty selective quotation of his argument. His argument was that religion was the epistemological foundation for morality. Differences in cultural morality throughout time isn't a compelling argument against that statement. And claiming that the locus of your morality is solely individual isn't any more compelling.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 11:58 am to the808bass
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His argument was that religion was the epistemological foundation for morality.
It wasn't. Slavery was still immoral even when it was accepted.
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Differences in cultural morality throughout time isn't a compelling argument against that statement.
Cultural morality? Like I said above, it was still immoral. Just because something is an accepted practice doesn't make it morally right.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:12 pm to CrimsonFever
Do his comments really bug you that much? I always thought that in this country everyone was entitled to their own opinions and were allowed to spout off about them all they wanted to
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:19 pm to Agforlife
Who said he wasn't allowed to express his opinion?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:27 pm to Stonehog
Slavery is immoral by your morals but not by others. Society one lives in determines morality not mine or your morals.
It is not immoral to blow yourself up in name of religion in a society but it is in another.
It is not immoral to blow yourself up in name of religion in a society but it is in another.
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:43 pm to Stonehog
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Cultural morality? Like I said above, it was still immoral. Just because something is an accepted practice doesn't make it morally right.
You really have no idea what you're discussing.
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:54 pm to CrimsonFever
A Christian bigot. What else is new?
Posted on 12/30/13 at 3:55 pm to the808bass
So when exactly did slavery become immoral?
Or are you saying it's ok for some cultures but not others?
Or are you saying it's ok for some cultures but not others?
This post was edited on 12/30/13 at 3:58 pm
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