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re: Saban and the Apocalypse in Austin

Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:36 am to
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:36 am to
The bottom line is that threads like this were kind of cute in 2009.

In 2013, they're starting to become more than a little pathetic.
This post was edited on 9/15/13 at 11:36 am
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:47 am to
they will offer him 10-12 million a year if not more. they could buy bama and lsu and have money left over. the only question is will he go.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:47 am to
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But if Texas offers 10 million/year, who doesn't take that cheddar?

If Texas offers ten million a year, Alabama will match it.

Sure, Texas would theoretically win a bidding war with Alabama, but the question is whether Texas would be willing to start making unrealistic offers.

While Texas has money, I think there's an upper limit on what they would be willing to spend on a coach.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:50 am to
Wouldn't it be hilarious is Saban left for Texas and Cam Cameron took the Alabama job?
Posted by FranMully
New Jersey
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:51 am to
Honest question for this thread, why doesn't Texas just shell out big money for Kirby Smart? Best coordinator in all of college football. With the right money he couldn't turn down the Texas HC job to be the D coach at Bama right?
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:55 am to
Either way it's bad for Alabama. They will have to pay Saban more to keep him. Which will mean much less money for the players. If that prodigious money funnel dries up, things are gonna get messy.
Posted by TideJoe
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 11:59 am to
Saban's worth 10 million a year and then some. He'll get whatever he wants if it comes to that........ Texas has to be careful because if they do attempt to back a Brinks truck up to is house and he turns them down it's going to be incredibly embarrassing for them.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 9/15/13 at 12:00 pm to
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Either way it's bad for Alabama. They will have to pay Saban more to keep him. Which will mean much less money for the players. If that prodigious money funnel dries up, things are gonna get messy.

On the plus side, it would provide more fodder for you to make shitty posts on the SEC Rant.
Posted by vodkacop
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 7:57 am to
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While Texas has money, I think there's an upper limit on what they would be willing to spend on a coach.


I'm sure you are correct in saying there is a ceiling but it will be very very high. Like someone said Texas could afford to pay Saban what LSU and Bama pay their HC combined. Also you have to look at the mudslinging going on between the horns and the AGS and know Texas hates, abhors, being second fiddle to a&m. Maybe a run at petrino or smart would be their safest bet.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:01 am to
Saban is not leaving Alabama, dude. He wants full control and Bama is happy to give it to him. UT will not let him have that.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:01 am to
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The question is whether he wants anything to do with that catastrophe.

Saban loves a good catastrophe - see LSU before he went there; see Bama before he went there. Texas fits his MO perfectly, maybe even more so than his 2 previous "savior acts". I think if they throw a ton of $$ at him he goes. In his egotistical mind, pulling the resurrection of a 3rd storied program will make him by far the greatest college football coach in all of history.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:01 am to
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He wants full control and Bama is happy to give it to him. UT will not let him have that.

UT most certainly will.
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:02 am to
Petrino sounds like a realistic candidate.

He could get away with killing 5 hookers in Texas.
Posted by aggressor
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:38 am to
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He wants full control and Bama is happy to give it to him. UT will not let him have that.


UT most certainly will.




Actually no, they won't. DeLoss Dodds runs the program at Texas and the money men behind him. Period. Bill Powers is even afraid of Dodds, for every other school you had the President of the school talking about re-alignment but at Texas it was Dodds. He has to have more dirt on people hidden in a safe than J Edgar Hoover.

DKR didn't even run the show at Texas after he won 3 NC's. They pushed him out in his prime. You simply cannot understate the arrogance level of the folks in Austin. They have 1 Natty in the last 40+ years but still consider themselves far and away the greatest program in the history of college football.

Texas also has the LHN which requires a level of exposure Saban would NEVER put up with. Multiple weekly coaches shows. Cameras all over practice. Players and coaches with constant TV commitments.

I have no doubt Texas will make a run at Saban. I also wouldn't be surprised if Saban took their call so he can get yet another monster raise out of Bama. In the end though, the fit isn't there.
Posted by MWP
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:49 am to
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I have no doubt Texas will make a run at Saban. I also wouldn't be surprised if Saban took their call so he can get yet another monster raise out of Bama. In the end though, the fit isn't there.


I doubt it. Maybe if he was younger. He already makes a killing and Bama will certainly throw more money at him if it really looks like the Horns are interested, but seriously, how many years does he have left in him and how much more $$$ can you spend? Saban already runs Bama and has this ship on cruise control. Why take on a train wreck at Texas, plus they wanted a guy like Muschamp to replace Mack before he left for UF anyway and I doubt they deviate from that.

Now Smart or Petrino I can see.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 8:51 am
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:55 am to
As someone who lives in Austin not far from campus and is friends with mostly Longhorns, y'all are underestimating one aspect and overestimating another.

Y'all are underestimating the detraction of the LHN. Even media whore extraordinaire Mack Brown has complained sbout it multiple times. It is a big waste of time for him and he finds it intrusive. He's complained about both its burdensome obligations and the fact that it broadcasts camp and practices to all of their opposition. If you don't think that'd bother Saban GREATLY, you don't know a thing about Saban. It's also non-negotiable. The coach of UT, whoever it is, is contractually obligated to provide that access and to do shows.

Y'all are overestimating how much he likes Tuscaloosa and how nice Tuscaloosa is in comparison to Austin. I've been to both places. If you have money, which he would, Austin offers a lifestyle that's light years better. He could rock a mansion on a cliff above Lake Austin with simultaneous views of the lake, the downtown skyline, and the hill country and only be 5 minutes from downtown, with all the culinary, entertainment, and cultural options it has that Tuscaloosa just does not.

And Austin > LA. The guy saying the opposite must have never been to LA. The area where USC is located blows, as does all of LA proper. Now San Diego, that's a diffetent story, I'd take San Diego over Austin in a heartbeat and some of the other beach towns as well, but LA itself is a dusty, sprawling, depressing shithole.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:59 am to
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UT most certainly will.


I doubt that, dude. UT is run by the money and Dodds. I would imagine all of their coaches are on a shorter leash than you'd think.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27748 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:37 am to
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The question is whether he wants anything to do with that catastrophe
isn 't that what Saban has thrived on...at LSU and at Bama??? He freakin' lost to UAB at LSU and ULM at Bama. He inherited catastrophe twice, and it appears to bring out the best in him.

That said, he ain't going anywhere
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:45 am to
quote:

quote:
I have no doubt Texas will make a run at Saban. I also wouldn't be surprised if Saban took their call so he can get yet another monster raise out of Bama. In the end though, the fit isn't there.



I doubt it. Maybe if he was younger. He already makes a killing and Bama will certainly throw more money at him if it really looks like the Horns are interested, but seriously, how many years does he have left in him and how much more $$$ can you spend? Saban already runs Bama and has this ship on cruise control. Why take on a train wreck at Texas, plus they wanted a guy like Muschamp to replace Mack before he left for UF anyway and I doubt they deviate from that.

Now Smart or Petrino I can see.



You misunderstand me. Texas will at least try to get Saban because "They're Texas". Saban will take their call (or in reality his agent will take their call) so he can use it as leverage for another raise. That's really as far as I see it going. I doubt Saban would actually interview unless he really wants to squeeze some cash out of the Bammers. Saban's agent apparently even talked to A&M before we hired Sumlin and he got another raise from Bama (though no one took it as serious interest), he knows how to maximize his value. I'd say the odds of him actually leaving though are very small and wouldn't be driven as much by money as ego.

The only reason Saban would leave is either he wants to show he can do it 1 more time and be the greatest coach in history or he wants to show he can make it in the NFL. Personally I don't see either happening but you never really know. Saban is a different kind of guy and he isn't a Bama guy like Bear was. He's just a great coach that is never happy even when he does win. The shirt he wears on the sideline being crimson or orange or purple doesn't really matter to him. I also don't think he cares about Austin being nicer than Tuscaloosa, the dude is just going to live at his office and on campus wherever he goes.
Posted by LSU2NO
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Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:50 am to
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Anyone who thinks Saban is going to take the job at Texas and have to deal with the intrusiveness of the Longhorn Network doesn't know very much about Saban.


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