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re: Who wins the Georgia vs LSU game in Athens on September 28 ?

Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:52 pm to
My point was Mettenberger and McCarron both posted very similar numbers in their first seasons as starters. Going into last season, McCarron was hailed as one of the best starters in the SEC. Yet Mettenberger sucks and has no shot at improving upon his first season and LSU is going to struggle because of him. Despite Mettenberger having more potential as a future NFL QB. Yeah, no double standard there. I'd argue that if Mett had a line as good as Alabama's last year, his numbers would look a heck of a lot better. I don't know how much LSU you watched last year, but our O-line was a freaking nightmare. Combine that with Mett's Ryan Mallett-like mobility and you've got a problem
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 4:59 pm
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:53 pm to
Georgia.
Posted by Gardevoir
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:58 pm to
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Georgia.

A Georgia win may be a loss for you. Does this game's outcome matter to you?
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:59 pm to

LSU due to the fact we will be healthy
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 4:59 pm to
Early betting line is Georiga -6.

Sounds about right.

Could move depending on how the first few games go of course.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:00 pm to
Ok. here is why I think Mettenberger will not improve like LSU fans believe he will. Character. He showed his character at Georgia, and I just don't believe he will put in the work necessary to make big improvements. Maybe I am wrong. But, players with character issues rarely turn things around at LSU. (See Perriloux, Matthieu, Jefferson, etc.) I credit Myles with getting rid of Perriloux. He had no choice with Matthieu.....WAY too many chances....Jefferson never developed because of character issues (MY opinion) and we could go on and on. I am familiar with the LSU program and could go deeper, but what is the use? EVERY school has these type players.....Georgia did too. Richt has finally weeded MOST of them out now, thank goodness.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:01 pm to
Spot on. If Georgia gets off to a good start they will be VERY tough all the way down the schedule. If they start off slow........could be ugly, with a capital "U".
Posted by Sneakbo
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:02 pm to
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Myles


Stopped reading there
Posted by Gardevoir
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:03 pm to
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Whether or not Cam Cameron has the offense better or not doesn't change the fact that the game is in Athens, we will have been battle tested, it's LSU's first true road game of the year, and we essentially have two weeks off before the game.

Those are just the cold hard facts and, at least IMO, they will have a significant bearing on the outcome.

The only thing I took away from your post is that the game is in Georgia's favor because the game is in September. Did being battle tested in November help Alabama against Georgia? Did having an entire offseason and 3 cupcakes prepare LSU for a road game at Auburn? Even if you're battle tested, no one is addressing the effect going 0-2 or losing to South Carolina for the 4th year straight my have on Georgia.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:05 pm to
If Mett wants a look as an NFL quarterback (which you have to assume he does), then he'll put in the work to achieve that. He's got the rare opportunity to learn from an OC who's been around the NFL a long time and coached up some great QB's. He'd be a fool not to take advantage of that. I think you're overestimating the improvement LSU fans are expecting to see. We're not expecting or even hoping for a Murray like 3,500 yard 35 touchdown season. But we don't see it as irrational to expect a 2,750-2800 yard 20-25 touchdown season.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:05 pm to
Just guessing, and i certainly can't speak for him, but I think he was saying Georgia would have big games under their belt when they meet LSU, while LSU will be going into their first big game. Although, I think he was forgetting about TCU. The TCU defense should let you know what kind of year Mettenberger will have.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:06 pm to
i win because i will be having a great fricking time
ETA: but really, georgia
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 5:06 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:10 pm to
Ahhhh....but Mettenberger's problem was never talent. It was thinking he had the talent already and it would get him by.

For instance...remember Gary hart? had the Presidency sown up. Worked for it his whole life. Remember what he did? Got caught on a boat with a woman that was NOT his wife.

Just because someone wants something intellectually doesn't mean they are willing to do what is necesary to get there.

If Mettenberger wants to go to the NFL he will need a Murray like year. he will push to throw the ball, and change plays at the line to give himself the chance to throw more. IF he does this...disaster. Best case scenario? LSU uses those runnign abcks. They wear defenses down. If they do this, it could be a special year for them. If they hitch their wagon to Mettenberger......ouch.
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 5:12 pm
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:13 pm to
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no one is addressing the effect going 0-2 or losing to South Carolina for the 4th year straight my have on Georgia


Started off 0-2 in 2011 and then reeled off 10 straight.

Lost to Carolina the last two years and won the East. In other words, we've been here before.

I expect us to split the first two games and then beat LSU with the UF game once again, per usual, telling the tale.

Us having essentially two weeks off before the game has nothing to do with it being in September.

Outside of that, the timing of the game matters. Last year, LSU caught Carolina on the road after their second biggest rivalry game of the year and Spurrier's main focus every year. Are you surprised that LSU won that game? Another example would be UF's game against A&M last year. Manziel's first college game, Sumlin didn't really know what he had yet and Gillislee was still completely healthy to carry the load for Driskell.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:14 pm to
Mett has the ability to be great when he is on fire. He looked like Andrew Luck against Alabama last year. But then he looked like Jordan Jefferson against Auburn. If he can be more consistent he could have a great year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:14 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by ljhog
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:18 pm to
the road be hard in the SEC. georgia by a TD.
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:21 pm to
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but I think he was saying Georgia would have big games under their belt when they meet LSU, while LSU will be going into their first big game. Although, I think he was forgetting about TCU.


Close, but not quite. I simply said it would be LSU's first true road game of the year and that we will be battle tested. Playing TCU at a neutral site and AU at home doesn't hold a candle to playing @ Clemson and then at home against Carolina.

ETA: This doesn't mean LSU won't have faced some adversity up to that point. I'm just saying we'll have more experience under pressure. Oh, and we'll be better rested.
This post was edited on 7/20/13 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:23 pm to
UGA's offense is going to be unreal this year. 10 starters returning on a very balanced offense that can pound you with the run game and then go no huddle spread on you just as well if they feel like it. There is no one player you can focus on shutting down. There is no weak spot. A 4th year starter at QB, all 5 linemen returning, an All American at HB, and a stud WR. It's about as good of an offense as you can imagine. The defense will have some growing pains, but if Richt can't win a national title with this crew, he likely never will.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/20/13 at 5:23 pm to
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But then he looked like Jordan Jefferson against Auburn. If he can be more consistent he could have a great year.


First SEC road start. And Auburn fans hadn't killed themselves yet. JHS was rocking pretty good to start out. He got better as the year went along. In the last 4 regular season games he averaged 268 yards. Then the whole team seemed to regress in the chicken bowl.
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