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SEC teams, better, same or worse next year?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:57 am
Records may not reflect it, but:
Bama - better
LSU - better
Auburn - better
Arkansas - better
OM - same
TAMU - same
MSU - worse
East:
Tennessee - better
Mizzou - better
USCe - same
UK - same
Vandy - same
Florida - worse
Georgia - worse
Bama - better
LSU - better
Auburn - better
Arkansas - better
OM - same
TAMU - same
MSU - worse
East:
Tennessee - better
Mizzou - better
USCe - same
UK - same
Vandy - same
Florida - worse
Georgia - worse
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 9:58 am to Beer Bryant
We should be better. We return everybody.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:00 am to Beer Bryant
West:
Progressing: LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Stagnant: Mississippi State
Regressing: Auburn
East:
Progressing: Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee
Stagnant: Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Regressing: Georgia
Good point re: records though. For instance I've got Georgia going 10-2, which isn't a serious regression at all by record from 2012.
Progressing: LSU, Alabama, Texas A&M, Ole Miss, Arkansas
Stagnant: Mississippi State
Regressing: Auburn
East:
Progressing: Florida, South Carolina, Tennessee
Stagnant: Missouri, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Regressing: Georgia
Good point re: records though. For instance I've got Georgia going 10-2, which isn't a serious regression at all by record from 2012.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:01 am to Beer Bryant
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Georgia - worse
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:01 am to Beer Bryant
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Florida - worse
Wrong, look at returning players, recruits
Be afraid, very afraid
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:02 am to Beer Bryant
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TAMU - same
Better, and here's why:
QB - same, but Manziel will improve.
HB - better. Our best running back was ineligible this year (Brandon Williams)
WR - same. We lose Swope, Nwachukwu, and McNeal, but gain Adeboyejo, Seals-Jones, Parker, Tabuyo, Jaquay Williams, Gonzalez, and Echols-Luper
TE - better. We lose Lamothe but gain Clear
OL - same if both Joeckel and Matthews stay, slightly worse if one leaves, worse if both leave
DL - better regardless of whether or not Moore stays. Significant upgrades at DT
LB - worse. You don't just replace Porter and Stewart that easily
DB - better. Great influx of talent and depth coming in
K - can't get much worse than Bertolet
P - slightly worse depending on Kaser's play
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:03 am to Beer Bryant
quote:
Bama - better
LSU - better
Auburn - better
Arkansas - better
OM - better
TAMU - worse
MSU - worse
East:
Tennessee - same
Mizzou - same
USCe - worse
UK - same
Vandy - worse
Florida - worse
Georgia - worse
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:06 am to Beer Bryant
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Tennessee - better
How can you determine this before you see who they bring in as a coach and who declares for the draft. They could possibly lose their 3 top Wrs and Bray.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:10 am to Beer Bryant
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MSU - worse
OK Nostradumbass. Tell me how you come to that conclusion. Most of our playmakers return next year. A better group of recruits to push them too. I guarantee you we are no worse than 8-4 next year too. This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:17 am to Beer Bryant
auburn and arky will be improved and a&m will lose a lot of OL beef plus jff ain't gonna slip up on anyone. therefore, a&m will be worse.
in the east, ut and mizzou will be better while georgia and usc will drop.
in the east, ut and mizzou will be better while georgia and usc will drop.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:39 am to Beer Bryant
Our defense won't be great next year but they won't suck. A lot of guys got good playing time when we had 4 guys out at the start of this season. Linebackers will be strength.
Our offense is going to be crazy good. We will be a big 12 team on offense.
Our offense is going to be crazy good. We will be a big 12 team on offense.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:42 am to Beer Bryant
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Bama - worse
LSU - better
Auburn - better, but still bad
Arkansas - better
OM - better
TAMU - worse(record)
MSU - better
East:
Tennessee - better
Mizzou - better
USCe - same
UK - better
Vandy - same
Florida - same
Georgia - same
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:50 am to Beer Bryant
A&M will undoubtedly be better. Matthews ain't going anywhere. Luke and DeMonster very might stay.
The offense will unquestionable be better. Manziel with a year, a group of guys with more time in the system, our best running back eligible, AMAZING freshmen talent at WR on campus, and Trey Williams with a year under his belt. We're going to be FILTHY on offense next year.
The defense is more of a question. The defense performed better than anyone thought that they would this year, and did it with an underwhelming pair of safeties. (We do NOT lose both our safeties, by the way...we only lose one of our four guys who played, and he is very "replaceable.") We lose one of our corners, but nobody thought he was going to start this year (he did, though, and played well). Our biggest loss on defense is our two LBers, but, again, it's not like they are stars. We have some JUCO talent coming in a some highly thought of true freshmen that can fill their shoes. We also had a freshmen play a lot at LBer this year (started a couple of games) and had some pretty nice games. We lose one starter and one backup on the DLine, assuming Moore stays. Obioha will have a year under his belt, Ennis REALLY came on as the year went on, and we have some guys that we redshirted who the coaches feel really good about.
The offense will unquestionable be better. Manziel with a year, a group of guys with more time in the system, our best running back eligible, AMAZING freshmen talent at WR on campus, and Trey Williams with a year under his belt. We're going to be FILTHY on offense next year.
The defense is more of a question. The defense performed better than anyone thought that they would this year, and did it with an underwhelming pair of safeties. (We do NOT lose both our safeties, by the way...we only lose one of our four guys who played, and he is very "replaceable.") We lose one of our corners, but nobody thought he was going to start this year (he did, though, and played well). Our biggest loss on defense is our two LBers, but, again, it's not like they are stars. We have some JUCO talent coming in a some highly thought of true freshmen that can fill their shoes. We also had a freshmen play a lot at LBer this year (started a couple of games) and had some pretty nice games. We lose one starter and one backup on the DLine, assuming Moore stays. Obioha will have a year under his belt, Ennis REALLY came on as the year went on, and we have some guys that we redshirted who the coaches feel really good about.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 10:59 am to Beer Bryant
If some of Florida's offensive recruits pan out at WR and RB, they will be appreciably better on offense next year.
Especially with the additions of Gracia and Moore on the OL. UF is only losing two players on the OL, and Harrison, Halapio, and Green should anchor one of the better OL's in the whole country, especially with all of the depth behind them.
On defense, it really depends on how many people leave. 3 starters graduate in Hunter, Evans, and Bostic, all 3 of which will be missed. Jenkins, Easley, Floyd, and Elam could all potentially go pro, but It'll probably just be Floyd and Elam.
In that case, Florida would have to replace their MLB, both safeties, and both DT's, which is never a good sign for a defense. The returning depth is quite good, both at LB and in the secondary, and getting Ronal Powell back will help with the pass rush. In addition, the defensive recruiting has been strong, so I don't forsee a big drop off, but clearly UF won't be as strong as they were this year.
I expect the starters to look like this, pending surprises in the spring, transfers, injuries, etc...
DE - Bullard, Fowler
DT - Easley, Williams/Brantley/Cummings
NT - Orr, Jacobs
Buck - Powell, Johnson/Mccalister/Cox Jr.
WLB - Jenkins, Ajagbe
MLB - Morrison, Taylor
SLB - Ball, Kitchens
CB - Roberson, Riggs
CB - Watkins, Hargraves
NB - Purifoy, Saunders
S - Gorman, Poole
S - Showers, Harris/Ledbetter
So the defense will still be very athletic and talented, but young in the back end. Gorman would be the oldest currently listed as saftey as a junior. Wouldn't be surprised if Riggs or Saunders were back there either.
The LB corp will once again be one of the best in the league, and the DL will be disruptive.
Just some thoughts.
Especially with the additions of Gracia and Moore on the OL. UF is only losing two players on the OL, and Harrison, Halapio, and Green should anchor one of the better OL's in the whole country, especially with all of the depth behind them.
On defense, it really depends on how many people leave. 3 starters graduate in Hunter, Evans, and Bostic, all 3 of which will be missed. Jenkins, Easley, Floyd, and Elam could all potentially go pro, but It'll probably just be Floyd and Elam.
In that case, Florida would have to replace their MLB, both safeties, and both DT's, which is never a good sign for a defense. The returning depth is quite good, both at LB and in the secondary, and getting Ronal Powell back will help with the pass rush. In addition, the defensive recruiting has been strong, so I don't forsee a big drop off, but clearly UF won't be as strong as they were this year.
I expect the starters to look like this, pending surprises in the spring, transfers, injuries, etc...
DE - Bullard, Fowler
DT - Easley, Williams/Brantley/Cummings
NT - Orr, Jacobs
Buck - Powell, Johnson/Mccalister/Cox Jr.
WLB - Jenkins, Ajagbe
MLB - Morrison, Taylor
SLB - Ball, Kitchens
CB - Roberson, Riggs
CB - Watkins, Hargraves
NB - Purifoy, Saunders
S - Gorman, Poole
S - Showers, Harris/Ledbetter
So the defense will still be very athletic and talented, but young in the back end. Gorman would be the oldest currently listed as saftey as a junior. Wouldn't be surprised if Riggs or Saunders were back there either.
The LB corp will once again be one of the best in the league, and the DL will be disruptive.
Just some thoughts.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:00 am to Beer Bryant
Vandy will for sure be worse. With Stacy and Rodgers graduating, and Matthews declaring for the draft, there is no way they can reproduce this year's results.
Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:36 am to Beer Bryant
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OM - same
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 11:56 am to Beer Bryant
IMHO
UGA will probably lose 2 of 3 to UF, LSU, SCar. 9-3 or 10-2 is my prediction.
UF vs. Bama in the 2013 SECCG
quote:
Records may not reflect it, but:
Bama - better
LSU - better
Auburn - better
Arkansas - same
OM - better
TAMU - same
MSU - worse
East:
Tennessee - same
Mizzou - better
USCe - worse
UK - same
Vandy - better
Florida - better
Georgia - worse
UGA will probably lose 2 of 3 to UF, LSU, SCar. 9-3 or 10-2 is my prediction.
UF vs. Bama in the 2013 SECCG
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:00 pm to Beer Bryant
We'll be better if we get moore, matthews, and joeckel to return. Anything else and we are probably going to be the same
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:21 pm to Beer Bryant
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Bama - better
que?
Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:43 pm to Beer Bryant
Our entire team this year may have a combined 5stars. Just wait honcho.
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