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re: Clearing up some misconceptions about A&M

Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Bose Ikard
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:11 am to
I don't understand why you guys are having such a hard time getting this. Yes, A&M became a large school (enrollment-wise) in the mid 70s. But it takes a generation for a large enrollment to lead to a large fan base.
Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:12 am to
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Well, which is it?


Both. They are consistent.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:14 am to
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Perhaps what is confusing you is that you don't understand the correlation between enrollment and fan base?


I believe you are the one my friend

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The fact that LSU and A&M had generally the same enrollment in 1977


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Our enrollment caught up in the 70's


caught up with whom? your enrollment in the 70's was larger than the majority of schools now

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but it takes twenty or thirty years for a large enrollment to lead to a large fan base


So by that statement your fanbase should be at least twice the size of the rest of the SEC

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A large enrollment is not needed for a large fan base if you are ND, or if you are the flagship school of a state without professional sports, but neither of those routes to a large fan base were available to A&M.


Care to name all the other exceptions to your conclusions. it seems like you have a lot of them. Also care to explain how Auburn fits into your exceptions.

Dude, just leave your fail thread and move on
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:15 am to
How about you stop making excuses based on assumptions and silly google search term studies and just accept that your football team is inferior to schools with greater disadvantages than your school has?
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:16 am
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:17 am to
Is one of the misconceptions that A&M is full of closet gays that start incoherent, shitty threads?

If so, you have failed miserably at clearing that up.
Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
826 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:17 am to
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So by that statement your fanbase should be at least twice the size of the rest of the SEC



What in the hell are you talking about? Nobody ever said that the correlation between enrollment and fan base was 1-to-1. I pretty explicitly laid out for you the other factors that can affect the size of a fan base.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:17 am to
Come on it's not their fault they have been dog shite

It is not their fault there enrollment has been larger than the majority of SEC schools for 50 years.

It is not their fault they have continually hired shitty coaches.

It is not their fault they have bizarre traditions and all male cheerleaders.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:18 am to
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Am I the only one with issues regarding the Nate Silver article and using that as proof that aTm has a large fan base?


It is a pretty ridiculous list. You are never going to convince me A&M has a larger fan base then UF, or for that matter, most of the major SEC schools.
Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:19 am to


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Come on it's not their fault they have been dog shite


From a Miss State fan?!
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:20 am
Posted by ATX Horn
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:20 am to


Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:22 am to


The sip with the gif of the LHN.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:23 am to
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What in the hell are you talking about?


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Nobody ever said that the correlation between enrollment and fan base was 1-to-1


no but you did say there was a direct correlation between the two. So by your assumptions aTm fanbase >> LSU fanbase even in the 70's and before.

So what are you going to use as the next exception to your rules? it seems like everything is an exception

Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:25 am to
I must have missed where I posted about being a powerhouse, or coming up what absurd reasons why we have been dogshit for most of our history.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:26 am to
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Nobody ever said that the correlation between enrollment and fan base was 1-to-1. I pretty explicitly laid out for you the other factors that can affect the size of a fan base.
That is right. You have never really said what the correlation is. Only that there is one.

However, let me set it out for you in real simple terms. aTm is and has been the number 2 school in one of the largest states in the country, that happens to be obsessed with football and has the greatest high school football in the country. aTm, despite what you tried to display, is and has for a while been a large university with significant alumni support. Despite all of these advantages, it has failed to perform at a high level in college football.

There is no misconception. Only aTm fans grasping at straws to make excuses for their mediocrity.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:28 am
Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4090 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:27 am to
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Is one of the misconceptions that A&M is full of closet gays that start incoherent, shitty threads?

If so, you have failed miserably at clearing that up.






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What in the hell are you talking about? Nobody ever said that the correlation between enrollment and fan base was 1-to-1. I pretty explicitly laid out for you the other factors that can affect the size of a fan base.


Ok then stats whiz, give a lesson in correlation so we can better understand. Since you have all of these intervening variables how exactly do you account for them to arrive at your rock solid conclusions?
Posted by Bose Ikard
Member since Jul 2012
826 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:28 am to
And, for the record,

A&M has a higher historic winning percentage than most of the rest of the SEC, including Arkansas.

This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:31 am
Posted by ATX Horn
Member since Aug 2011
547 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:30 am to
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The sip with the gif of the LHN.


Here's that gif..

Posted by Pigimus Prime
Arkansas
Member since Feb 2012
4090 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:30 am to
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A&M has a higher historic winning percentage than most of the SEC, including Arkansas.



41-24, 3-0, all day motherfricker
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54192 posts
Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:31 am to
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And, for the record,

A&M has a higher historic winning percentage than most of the rest of the SEC, including Arkansas.
You are 7th out of 14 schools and pretty far behind 6th place UF.

ETA: You'll likely get passed by Arky in the next couple of years.
This post was edited on 7/31/12 at 10:33 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/31/12 at 10:33 am to
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You are 7th out of 14 schools and pretty far behind 6th place UF.


Those six schools ahead of aTm are just exceptions
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