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“The SEC folks were just ridiculous with their ‘four best teams’ chicanery"

Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:10 am
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:10 am
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Pac-12 writer Ted Miller yesterday took up the argument of the conference he’s supposed to cover (not root for) when he said:



“The SEC folks were just ridiculous with their ‘four best teams’ chicanery. When SEC commissioner Mike Slive kept repeating ‘One, two, three, four’ to reporters last week, what he was really saying was, ‘The SEC’s priority is maintaining subjectivity as the key component of the college football postseason.’

Understand: There is no ‘one, two, three, four.’ There are only opinions and computer formulas. You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”



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Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
4244 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:11 am to
quote:

You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”



Good point
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:12 am to
Not really. No other sport is like CFB and is as uneven in competition levels.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Not really. No other sport is like CFB and is as uneven in competition levels.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46182 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:14 am to
quote:

You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”



Good point


Not a good point at all. NFL teams play, more or less, equally difficult schedules. If you come out of the SEC West undefeated or with 1 loss, it is much more impressive than Boise doing the same in the fricking WAC.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2670 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:15 am to
You can't use divisions, and conference champions when you only let 4 into a playoff.

You can't really have a 4 team playoff you can have a "final four", but with only 12 games it is difficult to categorize who is the 4th best team in college football as compared to the 5th best.


Taking the top 4 is the best option under this flawed system.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53164 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:16 am to
If Ted Miller is an advocate of doing it like the NFL, then it needs to be the conference champs of the Big 4 and add in two at larges without conference limitations. Which is what I have been asking for all along.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17372 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Not really. No other sport is like CFB and is as uneven in competition levels.


Correct. Imagine the uproar if a 14th ranked team wins the big east with two OOC losses and gets in over a one loss 4th ranked USC who lost the Pac-12 to undefeated Oregon.
Posted by G4ID
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2011
253 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:19 am to
Maybe I am wrong but didn't LSU beat the Pac-12 champion last year.....enough said.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88366 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:20 am to
I support the no conference champions model solely so one day we can back in undeservingly and knock out undefeated #1 SEC Champ Alabama
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:21 am to
Exactly. Just look at 2010. Bama was what, 3rd in the West or 4th? And drummed the Big 10 Champion Michigan St 49-7.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:22 am to
ehh. I doubt Lsu will ever win such a big game as Bama did against Lsu in January. Ever.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88366 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:24 am to
We've won the NC before and will again
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22045 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Good point


Yep. Just kidding, you fail.

In a unionized league with streamlined roster building avenues and salary caps, you can argue it's fair.

But CFB is none of those.

Subjective is more fair than arbitrary groupings in this case.
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10241 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:26 am to
What a moron, by this logic, the WAC champ is equal to the B1G champ.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22585 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Pac-12 writer Ted Miller yesterday took up the argument of the conference he’s supposed to cover (not root for) when he said: “The SEC folks were just ridiculous with their ‘four best teams’ chicanery. When SEC commissioner Mike Slive kept repeating ‘One, two, three, four’ to reporters last week, what he was really saying was, ‘The SEC’s priority is maintaining subjectivity as the key component of the college football postseason.’ Understand: There is no ‘one, two, three, four.’ There are only opinions and computer formulas. You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”


I continue to be amazed at how some people actually get paid real money to share their opinions about College Football when they lack basic logic and reasoning skills.
Posted by BigAggie06
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
952 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:29 am to
Heck by his logic the NCAA Basketball Championships are a farce. Or at least half a farce. The Conference Champs are legit but the rest of you at large yahoos ... nope you suck ... what an idiot
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Understand: There is no ‘one, two, three, four.’ There are only opinions and computer formulas. You might note that no — zero — pro sports use a ‘one, two, three, four.’ They all have divisions. To advance to the playoffs, you must win your division or win a wild-card spot. In no case is there a subjective voting process or selection committee.”

This is why when folks compare CF to Pro I have ask "DaFuq r you thikning?"
NFL 32 teams 4 teams/div. play at least 2x a year to find out the best in the div to go to playoff. CFB 130+teams.....comparisons do not compute.
Ted miller seems a bit butthurt, DWI SEC stacked....that is all
Posted by 12
Redneck part of Florida
Member since Nov 2010
19800 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:39 am to
Great comparison Ted. College football is just like the NFL. Except for the wide gaps in talent levels and the number of teams playing in each league.

NFL - 32 teams
NCAA FBS - 120 teams
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 10:39 am to
Pac-12 just be mad jelly
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